I 50's/early I was just reviewing some of the old posts and came across the conversations concerning CZ consists. The consist that Bob Webber lists was unusual as it contained Silver Hyacinth and Sil
You could do worse than join the passconsist list. I recall a fellow in there recently who had a large assortment of actual CZ consists that he was looking for a way to organize coherently. I believe
As I would expect since there were only 6 total Dome-Dorm-Buffet-Cable Car cars, that every so often Silver Shop for example would be in the shop resulting in the KCZ Buffet Domes in service on the C
The Cal Zephyr (unlike some of the other CB&Q trains) had a remarkably stable consist over its cb&q lifetime .... Just a few sleeper changes - conversions to coaches I believe of the 16 sections ....
Yes and no..... The mix of individual cars in the consist rotated in and out constantly due to routine maintenance and repairs. So for the purposes of the original question, the consist was not real
Good info .... Actually my repsonse should have stated that I was referring to a first section consist and yes, I neglected to mention the inclusion of foreign road sleepers and coaches and tourist a
Zephyrs augmented the cars added in 1952. Which would explain the 'Silver Patio' in the 1969 consist. coaches and repositioned in the consist as government travel shifted to the airlines. This means
What I see is that maybe 20% is a "pure" CZ set. That surprised me. Most often there was a "foreign" sleeper - and it wasn't a PRR or NYC. I have a UP, SP, C&NW, IC, Milw, N&W, C&O, B&O, NKP, and non
This has been a frustrating part of the analysis for me - the photos. I've come to the conclusion that photographers didn't want to take "impure" consists. If you think about it, it makes some sense.
In the early 1960's the original 16 section sleepers were rebuilt to 48 reclining seat chair cars with no external changes. The cars kept their original names. I would drop the consist down to this,
JeffThe 16 Section/Coaches are part of the train, so you'll have to buy them one way or another...sorry!!! They were moved ahead of the domes as you suspected after conversion to coaches. Charlie Vlk
Most of my information was gleaned from the BRHS Conductor Book reprints. Charlie Vlk -- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --~--> In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help
I did forget to mention that if a "non" CZ car was in the consist, such as a Rio Grande Coach from the Prospector, or an odd Pullman, the coach or coaches were placed behind the baggage car and an od
Why would you drop the number of domes? That was the one constant that I have found - of course, a lot of this depends on seasons. But even when I took it in the mid and late 60's the one constant wa
Referring again to "Portrait of a Silver Lady", I had noticed the consist getting shorter towards the end of service. I'll have to double check the dates and photos, but it did look as though one of
I would have to double check, but don't think Silver Rapids is right. -- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --~--> Has someone you know been affected by illness or disease? Network for Good is THE place to suppor
Silver Rapids was gone by at least 1964 if not before. BTW, if you haven't found the CZ Virtual Museum, it's well worth the time to do so. Here is their page with regard to consists: http://calzephyr
Didn't the DRG&W have a car limit to the CZ Consist? I seem to remember max of 15 cars. Loren Johnson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --~--> What would
Bob, Jeff & List, Based on my book research, I have pasted an excerpt of what I ascertained about Silver Rapids. Hope this helps with the overall subject matter. Bill Durham "...and even the Pennsylv
Not that I know of off the top of my head, but I will check (as it does ring a dim bell somewhere). I did ask about the comment regarding the length of CZ consists. And the reason relates to the publ