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121. Re: [CBQ] Passenger Train Consists (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 11:41:50 -0500
Yes, I have all the Wayner books. Most of them are Pullman (not ICC as some think) accident reports. And that's just one reason that the Newberry archive for Pullman would be of use - the Pullman Con
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-05/msg00032.html (11,674 bytes)

122. [CBQ] CZ Consists & Broadway Limited cars (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 17:27:59 -0500
I have been attempting to gather together and gain some insight into the consists I have for the CZ - over 150. Mostly early 60s. So, once I had them all in a spreadsheet, I highlighted those cars I
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-05/msg00044.html (10,543 bytes)

123. Re: [CBQ] CZ Consists & Broadway Limited cars (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 14:31:45 -0500
Of course. What makes it fun for me is finding out the history involved. And, in trying to replicate it. It can be frustrating, but it can also be illuminating. Certain long held thoughts are found t
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-05/msg00048.html (11,192 bytes)

124. Re: [CBQ] Re: CZ Consists & Broadway Limited cars (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 19:08:39 -0500
The best I have is 7 of 13. It just strikes me as odd, with 30 cars, you'd think at some point you'd come closer. As Steve said, I guess that's what makes things fun. You can obviously over analyze s
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-05/msg00050.html (14,143 bytes)

125. Re: [CBQ] Re: CZ Consists & Broadway Limited cars (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 11:33:21 -0500
Tom, this is true - which is why I bought a few when I found them (duplicates) at below $30. There shouldn't be an issue in changing the name - I have to see if the name plates are different lengths
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-05/msg00057.html (14,026 bytes)

126. [CBQ] CZ Consists probability (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 12:13:53 -0500
Well... isn't THIS a fine kettle of worms! You start playing with numbers, and the odds really start whopping you upside the head. There are 279,936 possible combinations of consists - with just the
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-05/msg00059.html (10,260 bytes)

127. Re: [CBQ] Re: CZ Consists probability (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 09:40:06 -0500
Foreign cars (to the CZ - which also includes the CB&Q non-CZ cars) is what really started this whole thing. In one period in 1961 (Sept. - Dec.), the percentage of having at least one foreign car on
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-05/msg00068.html (12,196 bytes)

128. Re: [CBQ] Commercial Limited (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 08:57:45 -0500
Yes. Bob Webber -- Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CBQ/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings onl
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-04/msg00003.html (9,938 bytes)

129. [CBQ] Coloradoan Train Off Date (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:49:35 -0500
Does anyone have the date for the train off for the Coloradoan? Thanks! Bob Webber -- Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CBQ/ <*> Your email
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-04/msg00008.html (9,178 bytes)

130. Re: [CBQ] Coloradoan Train Off Date (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 11:28:46 -0500
Answering own question - the Coloradoan was "consolidated" (essentially meaning baggage cars were added to the front of CZ's consist (typically at Hastings and/or McCook) and occasionally extra coach
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-04/msg00010.html (9,465 bytes)

131. [CBQ] 1a. Burlington Heavyweights -- Some Questions (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:57:03 -0500
You will first have to differentiate what you mean by "CB&Q's old Pullmans". Do you mean the heavyweight sleepers that were purchased as part of the Pullman divestiture in 1948? Do you mean Pullman s
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-04/msg00054.html (11,769 bytes)

132. Re: [CBQ] Aerial photos (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:30:38 -0500
Charlie, I have tried multiple times, without problems. I don't know if it might be a Java or Flash issue or something like that - I haven't yet tried it with Firefox - or for that matter, IE6. Bob W
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-04/msg00062.html (10,850 bytes)

133. [CBQ] CB&Q 3700 & 3701 (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:14:17 -0500
Does anyone know of photos of CB&Q 3700 & 3701 as baggage-dorms in the 1939-1941 era? The photos in Bill Glick's book are of these cars in their MOW configuration. thanks! Bob Webber -- Yahoo! Groups
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-04/msg00108.html (9,115 bytes)

134. Re: [CBQ] Re:U23C's (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:23:51 -0500
There were actually quite a few things railroads got upset with EMD over. And, as many railroads as there were, there are likely some fairly good apocryphal stories. The one that is fairly true invol
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-04/msg00138.html (15,681 bytes)

135. Re: [CBQ] Question on CZ Cars (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 03:00:35 -0600
The original cars are still available in quantity. Interestingly enough, it seems like one of the cars that's hard to find is the baggage. Not sure why. But the rest seem easy enough to find. And if
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-03/msg00001.html (11,108 bytes)

136. Re: [CBQ] Light Gray Pullmans (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 08:31:39 -0600
Rupert, Quite a few rebuilt Pullmans were painted in an over all gray / light grey scheme (the color is indicated as Aluminum gray). The ELMs are one example of that. Cars that were sold to the railr
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-03/msg00005.html (13,591 bytes)

137. Re: [CBQ] Light Gray Pullmans (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 08:41:25 -0600
ZEPHYR TOWER also showed up on the Exhibition Flyer in the Pullman light grey scheme. DENVER TOWER also was painted in the earlier scheme, and also showed up on the Flyer. At various times, each ran
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-03/msg00006.html (13,536 bytes)

138. Re: [CBQ] Light Gray Pullmans (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 13:10:50 -0600
The paint used originally in DENVER & ZEPHYR TOWER (I don't know about MISSOURI or ROCKET - would have to look) were originally the Pullman light grey scheme - like the ELMs got. Only after 1948 (195
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-03/msg00009.html (15,930 bytes)

139. Re: [CBQ] Light Gray Pullmans (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:33:16 -0600
The ELMS definitely had the light grey paint, as did (at least) DENVER TOWER - you can see the paint codes & painting dates in Tom's database. I can't recall where, but there is a really good color s
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-03/msg00012.html (14,871 bytes)

140. Re: [CBQ] Light Gray Pullmans (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:55:26 -0600
Note that ANACONDA is another in the CB&Q paint. For the FW&D. If you look in Dubins Pullman P&L notebook, in the back are some paint chips - note that the CB&Q Aluminum is different than the Rock Is
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-03/msg00021.html (21,867 bytes)


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