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61. Re: [CBQ] NP 10-6s was Re: Branchline coaches (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:28:44 -0600
Sorry, my mistake (re: 10-5). The Walthers car is a 4140 - and the PRR did own quite a few. But, SP owned more than a few as well, and the stainless clad version was much more popular in the South. J
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-12/msg00073.html (11,654 bytes)

62. [CBQ] Foreign Cars (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:31:35 -0600
As the NP 10-6 discussion was undertaken partially as a exploration into foreign cars.... The link below takes you to a (admittedly still in construction) PDF file that contains information regarding
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-12/msg00086.html (11,112 bytes)

63. Re: [CBQ] Foreign Cars (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:24:35 -0600
Yeah, in the spreadsheet it is correct, but I haven't regenerated the PDF yet. I initially put SILVER SHAFT there as an errant extrapolation that the SHAFT was a mine shaft (thus being in line with O
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-12/msg00088.html (13,445 bytes)

64. Re: [CBQ] Foreign Cars (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 07:21:24 -0600
The PRR cars (as well as N&W, L&N & RF&P) were 4140 cars. The NP & SP cars were Plan 4140-C cars. While the loading diagram was the same (215) the location of the general toilet was different. In the
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-12/msg00093.html (12,059 bytes)

65. Re: [CBQ] Foreign Cars (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 14:24:51 -0600
Another fun foreign car that showed up at least once, was one of the SP 10-5s painted in B&O colors. There are a lot of interesting variants. NYC cars painted in IC colors, and the whole host of PRR
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-12/msg00095.html (12,127 bytes)

66. Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: [CBQ] GN and NP Diners Mpls/StP to Chicago (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:14:28 -0600
PRR 8352 BUSH RIVER (SOU) 10-6 4140 P-S 4140 6814 Sep-49 Oct-49 (DH = dead head) PRR 8357 SCHUYLKILL RIVER (SOU) 4140 P-S 4140 6814 Sep-49 Oct-49 UP IMPERIAL ROCK 4-4-2 P-S 4069H 6668 Mar-42 Apr-42 U
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-12/msg00101.html (15,209 bytes)

67. Re: [CBQ] FWD Quanah depot (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:29:07 -0600
Somehow it got in the album on coal chutes... well of interest, I'll move it: http://finance.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/CBQ/photos/view/d743?b=2 Quanah FW&D 1969 Bob Webber [Non-text portions of this
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-12/msg00133.html (9,990 bytes)

68. Re: [CBQ] Business Car 98 as Restaurant in Peoria (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 22:53:37 -0600
Given that it was a Pullman built car, the Pullman Library likely has floor plans, and possibly side elevations for the car (as built). They'd also have cross sections, framing, ceiling, hoppers, lam
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-11/msg00150.html (10,901 bytes)

69. Re: [CBQ] Thoughts on the Ak Sar Ben Zephyr (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:21:48 -0500
Head End traffic would have been cut off at Council Bluffs (Transfer)- or continued to Lincoln/Hastings (etc.) In terms of disturbing passengers, the CZ was regularly added to and had cars dropped at
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-10/msg00093.html (17,146 bytes)

70. RE: [CBQ] Re: Thoughts on the Ak Sar Ben Zephyr (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:06:17 -0500
Trains operated often WB through CB - due to mail & express transfer. Multiple sections of the DZ would go on different routes, depending on the trains involved - though, mostly - multiple sections o
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-10/msg00112.html (14,127 bytes)

71. Re: [CBQ] Chicago visit-RR sites (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:07:52 -0500
This weekend is Naperville - the annual Sunshine Models Symposium - next weekend is Trainfest in Milwaukee. The Naperville meet has a full slate of very good presentations, there is a swap meet on Sa
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-10/msg00199.html (9,817 bytes)

72. Re: [CBQ] Kansas City Passenger Trains (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:50:48 -0500
The ARZ & KCZ for sure. Also 23-3 KC-Lincoln; 21-43 KC-Billings; 27-7 KC-Lincoln (and their opposites 10-22; 42-20; 26). & branchline train Kearney - NKC; Bob Webber [Non-text portions of this messag
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-09/msg00011.html (10,906 bytes)

73. Re: [CBQ] Lease or "Q" cars during off-peak time (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 09:49:18 -0500
Actually, not from the pool, but from the NP. The CB&Q cars were not leased (to the IC). A continuing problem with such questions as the original involves adding the targeted era. The CB&Q leased din
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-09/msg00029.html (11,505 bytes)

74. Re: [CBQ] Lease or "Q" cars during off-peak time (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 10:44:25 -0500
Charlie, when I looked into these a couple of years or so back, the specs were changed during construction. I reported what was found at the time on the PCL list. Basically, the original spec indicat
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-09/msg00031.html (11,961 bytes)

75. Re: [CBQ] Consist of DZ - 1960-1965 era (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 09:45:25 -0500
The answer is, I guess YES and NO. Yes, like the California Zephyr and the TCZ, the Denver Zephyr consist was not "fixed" (depending, of course, on what is meant by "fixed") in that time period. In f
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-09/msg00035.html (11,364 bytes)

76. Re: [CBQ] Coach Yard Thursday 18-Feb-1965 (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 08:54:21 -0500
An interesting set of consists, thanks! Interesting that both 11 & 21 were essentially 'backwards'. Two foreign cars in the CZ - both Q - SILVER MEADOW (Blackhawk 10-6) & SILVER TRAIL (pool coach) -
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-09/msg00045.html (12,086 bytes)

77. Re: [CBQ] Coach Yard Thursday 18-Feb-1965 2nd List (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:58:05 -0500
Feb 18th might have been a President's day weekend - or, more precisely, Washington's birthday (2/22) at that point in time (pre '76). Which meant a 3 or four day weekend, which meant that the CB&Q w
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-09/msg00051.html (16,171 bytes)

78. Re: [CBQ] Coach Yard Thursday 18-Feb-1965 2nd List (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:59:09 -0500
Should have added "SC" likely meant ski club and they rarely - very rarely - ever took sleeper space. Bob Webber [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To vi
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-09/msg00052.html (17,211 bytes)

79. Re: [CBQ] Coach Yard Thursday 18-Feb-1965 2nd List (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:32:23 -0500
Thanks, Stephen - makes a lot mroe sense when you look at it... Bob Webber [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-09/msg00057.html (19,550 bytes)

80. Re: [CBQ] Re: Coach Yard Thursday 18-Feb-1965 (score: 1)
Author: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:41:00 -0500
That might speak volumes though. The shorts coach going only so far as GJ, as well as another. Which explains why the WP never felt as comfortable as its partners. The business between Chicago & Denv
/archives/BRHSLIST/2008-09/msg00058.html (12,166 bytes)

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