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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:16:37 -0400 (EDT)
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to be technically correct I should have used the preferred railroad description as "dry closet"   instead of outhouse.

Pee


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From: Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com [CBQ] <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
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Sent: Tue, Jun 10, 2014 12:11 pm
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Unexpected Visitor To Aurora

Switch broom and outhouse are a nice added benefit to these photos.

Pete


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From: Hol Wagner holpennywagner@msn.com [CBQ] <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
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Sent: Tue, Jun 10, 2014 11:44 am
Subject: FW: [CBQ] Unexpected Visitor To Aurora

 
The two photos together exceed Yahoo's 10 MB limit, so I'll send them one at a time.
 
Hol
 

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Subject: RE: [CBQ] Unexpected Visitor To Aurora
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 10:39:31 -0600

OK, here's the rest:
 
By late 1942 the D&RGW was being overwhelmed by heavy wartime traffic, much of it flowing over the Moffat Road and Dotsero Cutoff, but a substantial amount also taking the Royal Gorge route west from Pueblo.  The Rio Grande borrowed whatever power it could -- even a single O-1-A Mike from the Q.  But big power was needed and in the winter of 1942-43 and again the following winter the Grande managed to borrow several big 2-8-8-4 Yellowstones from the Duluth, Missabe & Iron Range, which had no need for them during the winter when Great Lakes ore traffic was at a standstill.  The locomotives were sent west from Chicago via the Q in service, and Joe Schick, who lived at Keenesburg, Colo., some 40 miles northeast of Denver on the mainline, caught up with a pair of them double-headed on a westbound freight, on a chilly December 12, 1943.  The two attached views are the magnificent result.
&nbs p;
After one of the DM&IR engines ran away and derailed with an eastbound train coming down out of the mountains on the Moffat at Fireclay on February 7, 1943, the leased engines were restricted to service between Denver and Pueblo.  Otto Perry photos of the derailed DM&IR 224 and sister 225 in service on the Joint Line can be found at:
 
http://cdm16079.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15330coll22/id/51309/rec/1
 
http://cdm16079.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15330coll22/id/67330/rec/1
 
http://cdm16079.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/coll ection/p15330coll22/id/67331/rec/1
 
Enjoy!
 
Hol 
 

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Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 14:09:37 -0400
Subject: [CBQ] Unexpected Visitor To Aurora

June 8, 2014
 
Aurora had an unexpected visitor when the NP sent Yellowstone Class Z-5 No. 5008 to participate in the Chicago Railroad Fair of 1948. 
 
Here is a link to the Chicago Railroad Fair:    http://www.railarchive.net/rrfair/index.html.
 
There is a lot more on the Web if you Google search Chicago Railroad Fair.
 
The Q and NP routed the huge 2-8-8-4 type south from the Twin Cities over the LaCrosse Division to Savanna and into Chicago. The inserted image shows inbound 5008 posing in front of the Aurora Tower.
 
 
I'd like to hear opinions if the Yellowstone was routed from Savanna over the C&I direct to Aurora, or IF due to clearances and/or weight restrictions on bridges was routed instead Around The Horn via either Galesburg or Mendota?
 
Also, considering that the NP would've sent a RFE with the Yellowstone to instruct Q engine crews on its operation and servicing, how would the Q engine crews have been paid? On engine weight? 
 
I do not have a retirement date for 5008, but would suspect it had been replaced by diesels and scrapped in the mid-to-late 1950s. No NP Yellowstones were preserved. Best Regards - Louis
 
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL    

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