On page 368 of the Great Northern steam locomotive book there is a photo of two
DM&IR engines that are under steam and coupled together, but appear to be
running light with only a caboose. The photo was taken on December 28, 1942, at
Devils Lake, ND.
Best regards,
Ken Middleton
Portage, MI
krmiddle@charter.net
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From: Hol Wagner holpennywagner@msn.com [CBQ]
To: CB&Q Group
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 12:48 PM
Subject: RE: [CBQ] Unexpected Visitor To Aurora
Looking at these two photos made me wonder if the DM&IR engines were ever
double-headed on the DM&IR. I don't think they were, but I'm certainly no
Missabe expert, and this is probably the wrong forum in which to pose this
question. But . . . these photos may well document the only time these big
engines ran doubled-headed, and it was on the Q, of all unlikely places!
Hol
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 10:41:07 -0600
Subject: FW: [CBQ] Unexpected Visitor To Aurora
The two photos together exceed Yahoo's 10 MB limit, so I'll send them one at
a time.
Hol
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 10:39:31 -0600
OK, here's the rest:
By late 1942 the D&RGW was being overwhelmed by heavy wartime traffic, much
of it flowing over the Moffat Road and Dotsero Cutoff, but a substantial amount
also taking the Royal Gorge route west from Pueblo. The Rio Grande borrowed
whatever power it could -- even a single O-1-A Mike from the Q. But big power
was needed and in the winter of 1942-43 and again the following winter the
Grande managed to borrow several big 2-8-8-4 Yellowstones from the Duluth,
Missabe & Iron Range, which had no need for them during the winter when Great
Lakes ore traffic was at a standstill. The locomotives were sent west from
Chicago via the Q in service, and Joe Schick, who lived at Keenesburg, Colo.,
some 40 miles northeast of Denver on the mainline, caught up with a pair of
them double-headed on a westbound freight, on a chilly December 12, 1943. The
two attached views are the magnificent result.
After one of the DM&IR engines ran away and derailed with an eastbound train
coming down out of the mountains on the Moffat at Fireclay on February 7, 1943,
the leased engines were restricted to service between Denver and Pueblo. Otto
Perry photos of the derailed DM&IR 224 and sister 225 in service on the Joint
Line can be found at:
http://cdm16079.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15330coll22/id/51309/rec/1
http://cdm16079.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15330coll22/id/67330/rec/1
http://cdm16079.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15330coll22/id/67331/rec/1
Enjoy!
Hol
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Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 14:09:37 -0400
Subject: [CBQ] Unexpected Visitor To Aurora
June 8, 2014
Aurora had an unexpected visitor when the NP sent Yellowstone Class Z-5 No.
5008 to participate in the Chicago Railroad Fair of 1948.
Here is a link to the Chicago Railroad Fair:
http://www.railarchive.net/rrfair/index.html.
There is a lot more on the Web if you Google search Chicago Railroad Fair.
The Q and NP routed the huge 2-8-8-4 type south from the Twin Cities over the
LaCrosse Division to Savanna and into Chicago. The inserted image shows inbound
5008 posing in front of the Aurora Tower.
I'd like to hear opinions if the Yellowstone was routed from Savanna over the
C&I direct to Aurora, or IF due to clearances and/or weight restrictions on
bridges was routed instead Around The Horn via either Galesburg or Mendota?
Also, considering that the NP would've sent a RFE with the Yellowstone to
instruct Q engine crews on its operation and servicing, how would the Q engine
crews have been paid? On engine weight?
I do not have a retirement date for 5008, but would suspect it had been
replaced by diesels and scrapped in the mid-to-late 1950s. No NP Yellowstones
were preserved. Best Regards - Louis
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL
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