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From: "Hol Wagner holpennywagner@msn.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 09:24:25 -0600
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Louis and Group:
 
I've been slow to respond to this posting because I had a bit of scanning and 
fact checking to do first.  I've always been a big fan of articulated 
locomotives, likely because I grew up out here in UP country and managed to see 
the last gasp of the Challengers and Big Boys 100 miles to the north.  And I'm 
certainly a devotee of the Q's motley group of Mallet compound articulated 
engines -- to the extent of having devoted two Burlington Bulletin articles to 
them.  And thus I have collected images of other articulateds on the Q, though 
I had not seen this image of NP 5008 and would love to get a high res scan of 
it from you, Louis.  All of which brings me to my point -- points, actually.
 
First, another simple articulated locomotive operated over the Q to reach 
Chicago for display at the Railroad Fair, but this one traversed the mainline 
east from Denver, stopping, like NP 5008, in Aurora, where it was cleaned and 
painted.  The locomotive was Western Pacific 402, one of seven simple 4-6-6-4s 
built by  Alco in 1938, lasted used in 1950 and all retired in May and June 
1952.  The locomotive came into Denver in service on the D&RGW in early June 
1949 and was transferred to the Q and serviced at the railroad's 23rd St. 
roundhouse.  Fortunately, Otto Perry found the beast there on June 5 and 
captured the attached view of it after it had finished coaling at the Ogle 
steel coal chute.  The 1940 diesel shop, clearly lettered ""DIESEL SHOP" on the 
end and one side, is barely visible behind the 402's tender.  Note that the 
locomotive is flying white flags, because it's about to take an extra east to 
Lincoln.  Many years later Otto, a letter carrier, told me he had to go to work 
that day or he would have chased the train east.  Too bad.  But when the 402 
finally reached Aurora, it was captured on film again, this time by Q tower 
operator L.E. Griffith, who took an uncharacteristically soft focus view of the 
engine being washed outside at the shop complex in preparation for a complete 
repainting for display at the fair.  The WP sent the Q the necessary stencils 
and decals for the paint job.  Presumably the engine worked its way back home 
after the fair.
 
I'll follow this up with details of the other Yellowstones that operated over 
the Q -- double-headed even!
 
Hol
 
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Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 14:09:37 -0400
Subject: [CBQ] Unexpected Visitor To Aurora




June 8, 2014 
 
Aurora had an unexpected visitor when the NP sent Yellowstone Class 
Z-5 No. 5008 to participate in the Chicago Railroad Fair of 1948. 
 
Here is a link to the Chicago Railroad Fair:    
http://www.railarchive.net/rrfair/index.html. 

 
There is a lot more on the Web if you Google search Chicago Railroad 
Fair.
 
The Q and NP routed the huge 2-8-8-4 type south from the Twin 
Cities over the LaCrosse Division to Savanna and into Chicago. The inserted 
image shows inbound 5008 posing in front of the Aurora Tower.
 

 
I'd like to hear opinions if the Yellowstone was routed from 
Savanna over the C&I direct to Aurora, or IF due to clearances and/or weight 
restrictions on bridges was routed instead Around The Horn via 
either Galesburg or Mendota?
 
Also, considering that the NP would've sent a RFE with the Yellowstone to 
instruct Q engine crews on its operation and servicing, how would the Q engine 
crews have been paid? On engine weight? 
 
I do not have a retirement date for 5008, but would suspect it had 
been replaced by diesels and scrapped in the mid-to-late 1950s. No NP 
Yellowstones were preserved. Best Regards - Louis
 
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL                                              

Attachment: WP 402 on CB&Q, Denver, Colo., 6-5-1949, enroute to Chicago RR Fair, Otto Perry photo, DPLWHD coll. No. OP-19978.jpg
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Attachment: WP 402 on CB&Q, Auorora, Ill, 6-1949, being washed and painted for Chicago RR Fair, L.E. Griffith photo, Corbin-Wagner coll..jpg
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