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Re: [CBQ] Re: Broadway Ltd Cal Zephyr Cars @ Trainfest

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Broadway Ltd Cal Zephyr Cars @ Trainfest
From: James Becker <jimdandyaussies@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 09:46:05 -0800 (PST)
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Hey Rob,
 
Not to knock the nice reps at these shows, but some of them are not always "in 
the loop" on  the actual finished product or company position. 
 
Let us hope that BLI has heard the the concerns expressed by the 
modeler-customer and will do a fix on the dome glass. If not they still are 
kicking great models for a fraction of a similar brass car.
 
On the Intermountain front, I fully agree with Mr. Manley. The hobby has become 
"a pull it out of the box and run it". As far as the manufacturers, they are 
just keeping up with the trend. Bucking trends in business is sometimes a 
recipe for disaster. We all know that if you find a store that still stocks 
some kits, they generally have some "real estate" collected on the box. 
 
It may only be a matter of time before the undecorated kits follow their way 
into history too. Since painting seems to be becoming a lost art too.
 
Jim
 
Jim Becker
Mokena, IL

robev1630@sbcglobal.net wrote:
I have my first 4 cars for the CZ and my complaint is " they're too hard to 
pull outa da box". NO airhoses or steam fittings present, a concession for the 
18" radius guys. Other than that a fine jorub on everything else. 
Regarding the domes cars, I spoke to the BLI rep at trainfest about  window 
glazing and he wasn't sure what I was alking about. I showed him the gap 
betweeen the dome frames and the glass on his display model and asked if 
Broadway would fix them, He said that his sample was probably a production 
model and that was what we were going to get. Well I waited 30 years to afford 
a CZ and overall I think for the price it is worth it. One of my trucks drags a 
little but I can fix it. Even without fixing, it rolls better than some brass 
I've seen. 

Like it or lump it boys. I guess this will separate the modelers from the 
runners when we see who will try to fix this on thier models. We can hope or 
write American Model Builders for a laser etched plexi fix. Maybe Dave Lotz 
will come to our rescue and make a Q connection Quick fix kit for our deficient 
dome glass.  
To add insult to injury they were pulling a few CZ cars with a UP 6 axel 
something or other. 

On a positive note I saw the Athearn Mill gon and the PS covered hopper, they 
look great. The FTs from Intermountain with the etched side grilles and Dynamic 
brake screens look terrific. There isn't a gap between the roof panel and the 
carbody to fill in as on the  older Stewart body. There is a noticeable parting 
line on the side of the nose near the marker light / number board area that 
will need to be fixed. I didn't ask the rep if that will be addressed. 
Intermountain did say the age of the prepainted kit is over and they would only 
sell kits that are UNDEC. Shame on all of us for being lazy modelrailroaders 
instead of productive railroad modelers.
Sincerely,
Rob Manley
Midwest Mod-U-Trak

"When building kits is a lost art,
Only lost artists will be building kits !!"


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: James Becker 
  To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 11:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Broadway Ltd Cal Zephyr Cars


  True about the differences between the Shoreham car and the Challenger cars. 
I have both, and the Shoreham is somewhat lacking underneath compared to the 
CIL. However Shoreham didn't use little screws to hold the full width diaphram 
into the car end. Since the CZ shead the full width diaphram early, this is a 
little bit of a bother. Also the curve radius for the CIL is pretty wide.

  As far as detailing between the Broadway cars and the Challenger cars, the 
Broadway cars don't take much of a back seat. Pretty good in comparison to the 
brass cars.

  Jim 

  Jim Becker
  Mokena, IL

  Gordon Smith <kc2bw@optonline.net> wrote:
  I have been looking at the pictures on the BL site. The domes may be
  disappointing as the dome section is a separate casting and it does not look
  to fit just right. There are spaces between  it where it joins the rest of
  the shell. I hope production isn't like this. There are details on these
  that Shoreham left off their models, such as the piping around the water
  tanks on the dome cars. Challanger had these details on theirs.

  Gordon

  ----- Original Message ----- 

  > I picked up my three 10-6's and baggage car today.................
  >
  >
  > HOLY COW ARE THEY MAGNIFICENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  >
  > The finish is just like the current brass models of stainless steel
  > cars, the underbody detail is as good as brass, lettering equal to
  > brass and decals, window treatment very nice especially the altered
  > lengths of the blinds. There is more that these cars are as good as,
  > just can't put my finger on it.
  >
  > Gave them a test run and smooth. Super rolling, nice lighting,
  > smooth, smooth, smooth.
  >
  > In my opinion they are better than my CZ from Challenger and
  > Shoreham Shops.
  >
  > Fantastic cars, Broadway Limited hit a grand slam with these models.
  > Can't wait to see the domes.
  >
  > Jim
  >
  > Jim Becker
  > Mokena, IL
  >




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