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Re: [CBQ] A Plethora of Pullmans

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] A Plethora of Pullmans
From: "Steven Holding" <s.holding@charter.net>
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 23:08:29 -0600
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IF you can find the color dry transfers you want make your own decals using
decal paper and spray It is some times easier to use then cutting up all the
decals to begin with
sjh
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From: <rgortowski@aol.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] A Plethora of Pullmans


> Johnathan,
>
> To the best of my knowledge, upon the 1948 breakup of Pullman, the
Burlington
> immediately leased the cars back to Pullman for operation.  All of the
> pictures I have seen of cars still in Pullman lease have "PULLMAN" on the
> letterboard in Railroad Roman and the car name underneath.  The Q did not
have them
> relettered "Burlington".  There is no indication that the car is owned by
the Q
> and no numbering on the car.  Once the cars left Pullman lease, I have
seen
> pictures where the letterboard is painted over (blank) and where the name
was, is
> the lettering CB&Q and the car number.
>
> I am looking at a picture in October 1965 of the New Capitol -  a 14
section
> sleeper that was still in Pullman lease.  It is painted in Pullman green
with
> a black roof and underbody.  It has a dulux gold "PULLMAN" on the
letterboard
> in Railroad Roman with the name "NEW CAPITOL" also in RR Roman.  Of
interest,
> the cars on either side of it - a NYC and Southern car have the owning
> railroads' name on the letterboard with "PULLMAN" in small letters on each
end of the
> cars.
>
> In the early 50's several heavyweight cars were painted silver with SSS
> (simulated stainless steel - i.e. shadow striping) paint for protection of
the DZ.
> In this case the "PULLMAN" was in Zephyr typeface and was black.  Some of
> these cars eventually had their letterboards painted over as well.
>
> Johnathan - in your case (mid '40's) all letterboards should be "Pullman"
> with the car name in what some people call "bronze gold" (like gold leaf).
I
> have seen drawings that show that Pullman used this color until 1952
before
> changing to dulux gold (yellowish-gold).  Note:the 1952 date is open to
some
> debate.  The paint should all be Pullman green with black roofs and
underbodies.
> The only advantage of using the Branchline "Q" lettered cars would be you
would
> get the car names done already.  I don't know if Branchline intends to use
the
> bronze gold lettering or the dulux.
>
> Finding RR Roman "PULLMAN" decals in bronze gold is not hard.  Finding the
> car names is.  I had to piece together the name "CORNHUSKER" (a 12-1
sleeper -
> what a great name!) on one of my Q sleepers.
>
> Also of note - the earliest use of the "Ribbonrail" lettering I have ever
> seen was in 1949 on the rebuilt suburban coaches.  There may have been an
earlier
> use, but this is the earliest I have ever seen.  The RR Roman lasted well
> into the fifites on many cars.
>
> All of this is coming from memory, there may be a few goofs - feel free to
> jump in if I have it wrong!
>
> Rich
>
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