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Re: [CBQ] A Plethora of Pullmans

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] A Plethora of Pullmans
From: rgortowski@aol.com
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 21:13:15 EST
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Johnathan,

To the best of my knowledge, upon the 1948 breakup of Pullman, the Burlington 
immediately leased the cars back to Pullman for operation.  All of the 
pictures I have seen of cars still in Pullman lease have "PULLMAN" on the 
letterboard in Railroad Roman and the car name underneath.  The Q did not have 
them 
relettered "Burlington".  There is no indication that the car is owned by the Q 
and no numbering on the car.  Once the cars left Pullman lease, I have seen 
pictures where the letterboard is painted over (blank) and where the name was, 
is 
the lettering CB&Q and the car number.

I am looking at a picture in October 1965 of the New Capitol -  a 14 section 
sleeper that was still in Pullman lease.  It is painted in Pullman green with 
a black roof and underbody.  It has a dulux gold "PULLMAN" on the letterboard 
in Railroad Roman with the name "NEW CAPITOL" also in RR Roman.  Of interest, 
the cars on either side of it - a NYC and Southern car have the owning 
railroads' name on the letterboard with "PULLMAN" in small letters on each end 
of the 
cars.

In the early 50's several heavyweight cars were painted silver with SSS 
(simulated stainless steel - i.e. shadow striping) paint for protection of the 
DZ.  
In this case the "PULLMAN" was in Zephyr typeface and was black.  Some of 
these cars eventually had their letterboards painted over as well.

Johnathan - in your case (mid '40's) all letterboards should be "Pullman" 
with the car name in what some people call "bronze gold" (like gold leaf).  I 
have seen drawings that show that Pullman used this color until 1952 before 
changing to dulux gold (yellowish-gold).  Note:the 1952 date is open to some 
debate.  The paint should all be Pullman green with black roofs and 
underbodies.  
The only advantage of using the Branchline "Q" lettered cars would be you would 
get the car names done already.  I don't know if Branchline intends to use the 
bronze gold lettering or the dulux.

Finding RR Roman "PULLMAN" decals in bronze gold is not hard.  Finding the 
car names is.  I had to piece together the name "CORNHUSKER" (a 12-1 sleeper - 
what a great name!) on one of my Q sleepers.

Also of note - the earliest use of the "Ribbonrail" lettering I have ever 
seen was in 1949 on the rebuilt suburban coaches.  There may have been an 
earlier 
use, but this is the earliest I have ever seen.  The RR Roman lasted well 
into the fifites on many cars.

All of this is coming from memory, there may be a few goofs - feel free to 
jump in if I have it wrong!

Rich


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