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[CBQ] Budd Sleepers on the Q ( was Re: A Plethora of Pullmans)

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Subject: [CBQ] Budd Sleepers on the Q ( was Re: A Plethora of Pullmans)
From: "Stephen J. Levine" <sjl@prodigy.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 06:23:15 -0000
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Charlie

By the time the CZ sleepers were built, the Pullman suit was resolved 
and the operating arm of that company was being sold to the railroads.

Remember that the streamlined post-war Pullmans also operated on the 
Chicago-Twin Cities Black Hawk.

After the ex-1936 Denver Zephyr sets were retired from the Texas 
Zephyr and the 1940 equipment restored to the train, the sleepers run 
were all streamlined from the Pullman pool.  On occasion, one of the 
spare sleepers off of the 1956 Denver Zephyr would run on the train, 
as documented in videos by Steve Allen Goen.

sjl

--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "Charlie Vlk" <cvlk@c...> wrote:
> Perhaps Hol Wagner could shed some light on this subject....
> It is interesting that the first individual Budd coaches went to 
the C&S and
> FW&D rather than the parent CB&Q... and that the Texas Zephyr got 
Budd built
> cars at all when no other non-articulated trains were built prewar 
other
> than the General Pershing/Silver Streak Zephyrs....
> The pending lawsuit with Pullman over the DZ sleepers no doubt 
influenced
> the decision to remodel the heavyweights to blend with the Budd 
cars....the
> same thing happened with the CB&Q's Zephyr Tower and the RI's 
Rocket Tower
> for the Zephyr Rocket.  The first CB&Q Budd Pullmans were the 
California
> Zephyr cars, so there might be more to the issue than the Pullman
> lawsuit....in fact, when you think of it, Budd Pullmans on the Q 
were
> limited to the original CZ, the 1952 cars for the CZ, ARZ, and KCZ, 
and the
> 1956 Denver Zephyr.... not many trains required Pullmans on the Q!!!
> Charlie Vlk




 
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