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1. [CBQ] Re: California Zephyr in KC (score: 1): Author: clipperw@EarthLink.net; Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 15:40:16 -0600; I was in the Kansas City Union Station today to see my wife off on the Southwest Chief. While there, I stopped to look at several of the many displays that are there for public viewing. In one case,; /archives/BRHSLIST/2004-12/msg00076.html (10,380 bytes)
2. Re: [CBQ] Re: California Zephyr in KC (score: 1): Author: jsteamernubes@aol.com; Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 17:18:24 EST; The equipment description mentioning only one dome car makes it sound like it might have been the American Royal Zephyr, the overnight Kansas City to Chicago train. JN [Non-text portions of this mess; /archives/BRHSLIST/2004-12/msg00078.html (9,419 bytes)
3. Re: [CBQ] Re: California Zephyr in KC (score: 1): Author: SilvrDome@aol.com; Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 19:23:32 EST; Bill I think the photo you are refering to is the print of the Kansas City Zephyr train #36 departing Union Station behind F-3's. It's a great photograph showing the pre-war RPO, 52 Seat Chair Coach,; /archives/BRHSLIST/2004-12/msg00080.html (9,837 bytes)
4. Re: [CBQ] Re: California Zephyr in KC (score: 1): Author: rgortowski@aol.com; Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 23:08:19 EST; List, Sorry about that - meant for Hubert (check before you "send"...) Rich [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --~--> $4.98 domain names from Yahoo!. Regis; /archives/BRHSLIST/2004-12/msg00081.html (9,640 bytes)
5. Re: [CBQ] Re: California Zephyr in KC (score: 1): Author: rgortowski@aol.com; Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:34:25 EST; Hubert, How the heck are you?! Haven't talked in a coons age. After not doing anything for years (except buying tons of brass...), I am finally starting the layout. The Baltic birch 3/4" plywood (11; /archives/BRHSLIST/2004-12/msg00082.html (10,103 bytes)
6. [CBQ] Re: California Zephyr in KC (score: 1): Author: clipperw@EarthLink.net; Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 16:09:14 -0600; Hubert, The lead car is not an RPO, but rather a full baggage. The portion of the train hidden is hidden by the station overhead concourse structure, no the bridge. It appears to be taken from the br; /archives/BRHSLIST/2004-12/msg00089.html (11,555 bytes)
7. Re: [CBQ] Re: California Zephyr in KC (score: 1): Author: "Charlie Vlk" <cvlk@comcast.net>; Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 11:22:54 -0600; Does anybody have Conductor's Book records for California Zephyr consists other than the ones published by the BRHS? Those 1960-63 records that show #17 or #18 do not have one "pure" CZ consist....al; /archives/BRHSLIST/2004-12/msg00103.html (10,999 bytes)
8. Re: [CBQ] Re: California Zephyr in KC (score: 1): Author: Bob Webber <zephyr1@ameritech.net>; Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 12:37:53 -0600; If you're trying to ascertain if there was a time when or if there were complete sets of one railroad's cars in one trainset (i.e. the split of one D&RGW, two WP, 2 CB&Q and 1 part CB&Q/Part WP/Part; /archives/BRHSLIST/2004-12/msg00104.html (14,182 bytes)
9. [CBQ] Re: California Zephyr in KC (score: 1): Author: "John Lewis" <CBQJohn@msn.com>; Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 12:52:13 -0600; If I recall correctly, there are a couple of shots in one of Mike Spoor's books of the exhibition/demonstration set of CZ equipment in Galesburg headed west. The power was an E5A/E5B combo. The passe; /archives/BRHSLIST/2004-12/msg00105.html (11,182 bytes)
10. Re: [CBQ] Re: California Zephyr in KC (score: 1): Author: "Charlie Vlk" <cvlk@comcast.net>; Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 13:14:03 -0600; BobI've come to that conclusion that the trains always ran mixed. With maintenance, wrecks, etc. there probably was a fair degree of churn in the consists, especially after 1952 when the Q started to; /archives/BRHSLIST/2004-12/msg00106.html (11,754 bytes)
11. [CBQ] Re: California Zephyr in KC (score: 1): Author: clipperw@EarthLink.net; Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:56:17 -0600; Hubert, I am beginning to think you are correct. The first dome car is way back in the train compared to the normal CZ consist. Also, there is a photo of the KCZ with F-3s leading in the new Zimmerma; /archives/BRHSLIST/2004-12/msg00176.html (12,505 bytes)
12. [CBQ] Re: California Zephyr in KC (score: 1): Author: clipperw@EarthLink.net; Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 09:28:12 -0600; Well, I sure would make a lousy witness in a crime investigation. I was in KC Union Station and took another look at the photo with the passenger F-3s departing KC Union Station westbound. Indeed, th; /archives/BRHSLIST/2004-12/msg00189.html (11,164 bytes)
13. Re: [CBQ] Re: California Zephyr in KC (score: 1): Author: Aeolus3@aol.com; Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:03:23 EST; Bill, Please don't feel bad about being confused, you weren't! So many times one photo can raise many questions. Trains Magazine put out some slide sets one of those slides showed #9960 ABC, if I rem; /archives/BRHSLIST/2004-12/msg00193.html (9,793 bytes)
14. Re: [CBQ] Re: California Zephyr in KC (score: 1): Author: "East Pass" <EastPass@19main.com>; Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:03:38 -0600; Yes, that makes sense. Until they went into freight two F3 sets were used in #17/#18 service and one to Kansas City. The equipment description mentioning only one dome car makes it sound like it migh; /archives/BRHSLIST/2004-12/msg00197.html (10,260 bytes)
15. Re: [CBQ] Re: California Zephyr in KC (score: 1): Author: "East Pass" <EastPass@19main.com>; Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 17:42:53 -0600; Bill, In 1951-1952 at least they were assigned daily. Hubert, I am beginning to think you are correct. The first dome car is way back in the train compared to the normal CZ consist. Also, there is a; /archives/BRHSLIST/2004-12/msg00198.html (10,884 bytes)
16. Re: [CBQ] Re: California Zephyr in KC (score: 1): Author: "Rupert and Maureen" <gamlenz@ihug.co.nz>; Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 19:36:52 +1300; Bill Sorry, no photos of 9961 have been identified as such in any BRHS publication to date (nor any in my own books) Rupert -- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Co; /archives/BRHSLIST/2004-12/msg00203.html (10,650 bytes)
17. Re: [CBQ] Re: California Zephyr in KC (score: 1): Author: "John Trulson" <norskeviking@msn.com>; Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 13:33:46 -0800; You can find several pictures of the 9961-C set in Karl Zimmermann's "The Story of the California Zephyr", also "Portrait of a Silver Lady" has at least one photo. John Trulson -- Original Message --; /archives/BRHSLIST/2004-12/msg00205.html (11,606 bytes)

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