Hubert,
I am beginning to think you are correct. The first dome car is way back
in the train compared to the normal CZ consist. Also, there is a photo
of the KCZ with F-3s leading in the new Zimmerman Zephyr book taken
about 1953 with a consist similar to the photo in Union Station. I
will be in Union Station tonight to meet my wife when she arrives on
#3. I will take another look. I am also going to see if there is a way
to get a copy of the photo to share. If it is the KCZ, I wonder how
frequently the CZ F-3 consists were assigned to the train?
Bill Barber
On Monday, December 13, 2004, at 12:40 AM, CBQ@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 15:55:31 EST
> From: SilvrDome@aol.com
> Subject: California Zephyr in KC
>
> Bill,
>
> I have to politely disagree about the photo on display in Union
> Station.
> Next time you are at Union Station look closely at the photo, at the
> pre-war RPO
> directly behind the last F3A. It has two letter boards below the belt
> rail,
> as did "Silver Mail" and "Silver Sheen" (Silver Mail was assigned to
> the KCZ).
> A pre-war baggage car has only one, as does a post-war CZ baggage car.
> Looking at the photo it is difficult to see the 2 small windows for
> the RPO
> employees, but you can clearly see the second letter board which would
> read
>
> "United States Mail
> Railway Post Office"
>
> The lighting is correct for a mid-day departure of #35. Also, a
> exhibition
> tour of spanking new CZ equipment would not likely include a pre-war
> Chair
> Coach. But it's inclusion in the consist behind the RPO is consistent
> with the
> KCZ.
>
> During floods the CZ did visit on occasion both North Kansas City and
> Cameron
> I have been told. I would not doubt that a detour could take it near
> KC Union
> Station, I am pretty sure that the display photo is my favorite
> Zephyr, The
> Kansas City Zephyr #36.
>
> I remain open to discussion it is otherwise!
>
> Have a good weekend.
>
> Hubert
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