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Thanks. I never knew about the crew lockers. They didn't affect
the window patterns, did they?
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David Streeter
On 10/10/2022 8:14 PM, Leo Phillipp via
groups.io wrote:
The only link was that the train crews could leave
their briefcases,extra tickets,jackets etc in the closets
between runs or overnight. Manage wanted to stop all the extra
switching.
There were times when I worked the Dinkies that I
wished for the locker cars rather than dragging around a bunch
of stuff to and from the yard and locker room.
Leo
Leo, what is the link between the locker cars and the wake-up
calls? Did the crews formerly have access to the locker cars
to sleep in like cabooses many many years ago?
Rupert,
I was hoping someone would mention the locker cars.
Each crew had one assigned to them. Where the crew went
the locker car had to go. Imagine the switching involved
at both Aurora and 14th st !
Sometime in the later part of the 60s the assigned
locker cars were traded away for a morning wake up call
for each and every Condr and trainman on morning trains.
If the crew caller failed to call you and you were a bit
of a hard core you could roll over,sleep in and get paid
for the day. Of course there was a mad scramble to
rotate guys around when you didn’t show up. Yes, the
crew caller kept a log to CYA himself/herself.
Leo Phillipp
According
to the 1969 Ownership, Age & Condition
Equipment List
700-729
built 1950
730-739 built 1953
740-749 built 1955
750-759 built 1957
760-787 built 1965
790-795 built 1965
96 seats lower level, 52 seats in the
gallery, while toilet cars seated 94 and 51
respectively.
From the January 1965 List (before the 1965
equipment was listed), 725-731, 740-744 and
750-758 have an upper deck locker for
trainmen, and 722-724, 733-736, 739, 745,
748-749 and 759 were “equipped with 27
conductor control wiring for push-pull
service in 1964.”
Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ
Groups 4 and 5 arrived
after the merger. Group 4 was ordered by the
Q, but delivered after the merger. WSMTD/BNSF
still has 741-751, 753-780 and 782-787.
Superior, WI
The apparent
confusion at Rapido got me to
thinking...
From my personal
observations, there are five types of
Burlington
1: name board, no
toilet, no cab, starting with 700.
2: name board,
toilet, no cab, ending with 787. (I
have never seen a 788
3: name board,
toilet, cab, 790-795. (no photo found
on rrpicturearchives)
4: no name board,
toilet, cab, 796-815.
5: no name board,
toilet, no cab, 816-820.
I believe types 1
and 2 were ordered in alternating
lots, but I don't
have ready access
to my notes detailing which numbers
are which types.
I believe Metra has
purged all of type 1.
Metra has removed
the cabs from all type 3 and 4 cars,
plating over the
In my mind, types 4
and 5 are "BN cars," but I don't know
when they were
actually ordered. I
assume they were bought by WSMTD
rather than the
All cars with
toilets are oriented with the toilet
in the southwest
corner. This was
the biggest flaw with the Holgate
& Reynolds and Kiel
(Keil?) Line
models: they had the toilet in the
wrong place so it would
In all groups,
underbody details changed over time,
first with 480V HEP
replacing the
propane air conditioners, and I think
the HEP connectors
were modified when
the E9s were retired. And of course
the big BN logo
boards were added
below the windows, etc.
After type 5 come
the various orders of "RTA cars" which
look different
and have 4-digit
numbers.
Do I have all of
this right?
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