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Thank you. That confirms that there never was a 788 or 789. Of
course, eventually all of them had the 27-pin wiring added.
"My observations" were made mainly in the early 2000s (or
possibly late 1990s). With the dual goals of recording actual
train consists and getting some exercise, I walked up and down the
Naperville platforms recording engine and car numbers of dinkies
and Amtrak trains on a mini-cassette recorder. Then I went home
and transcribed the data onto my computer. For the dinkies, I had
a spreadsheet of the car numbers, whether there was a toilet and
name board, and the first and last times I saw it. After a while,
I noticed that some of those last seen dates were getting old
(which was one of my objectives -- I knew some of the cars were
expected to be retired soon). For Amtrak, this was the Express era
and eventually I got down to recording the numbers of the
Roadrailer bogies and the destinations chalked on the trailers.
Unfortunately, this was several computers ago and I don't think I
copied the data forward as I got new ones. I have no idea whether
the old hard drive would still be readable.
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David Streeter
On 10/10/2022 3:51 PM, Rupert Gamlen
wrote:
According
to the 1969 Ownership, Age & Condition Equipment List
700-729
built 1950
730-739 built 1953
740-749 built 1955
750-759 built 1957
760-787 built 1965
790-795 built 1965
96 seats lower level, 52 seats in the gallery, while toilet
cars seated 94 and 51 respectively.
From the January 1965 List (before the 1965 equipment was
listed), 725-731, 740-744 and 750-758 have an upper deck
locker for trainmen, and 722-724, 733-736, 739, 745, 748-749
and 759 were “equipped with 27 conductor control wiring for
push-pull service in 1964.”
Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ
Groups 4 and 5 arrived after the merger.
Group 4 was ordered by the Q, but delivered after the merger.
WSMTD/BNSF still has 741-751, 753-780 and 782-787.
Superior, WI
The apparent confusion at Rapido
got me to thinking...
From my personal observations,
there are five types of Burlington
1: name board, no toilet, no cab,
starting with 700.
2: name board, toilet, no cab,
ending with 787. (I have never seen a 788
3: name board, toilet, cab,
790-795. (no photo found on rrpicturearchives)
4: no name board, toilet, cab,
796-815.
5: no name board, toilet, no cab,
816-820.
I believe types 1 and 2 were
ordered in alternating lots, but I don't
have ready access to my notes
detailing which numbers are which types.
I believe Metra has purged all of
type 1.
Metra has removed the cabs from all
type 3 and 4 cars, plating over the
In my mind, types 4 and 5 are "BN
cars," but I don't know when they were
actually ordered. I assume they
were bought by WSMTD rather than the
All cars with toilets are oriented
with the toilet in the southwest
corner. This was the biggest flaw
with the Holgate & Reynolds and Kiel
(Keil?) Line models: they had the
toilet in the wrong place so it would
In all groups, underbody details
changed over time, first with 480V HEP
replacing the propane air
conditioners, and I think the HEP connectors
were modified when the E9s were
retired. And of course the big BN logo
boards were added below the
windows, etc.
After type 5 come the various
orders of "RTA cars" which look different
and have 4-digit numbers.
Do I have all of this right?
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