| Rupert,
I was hoping someone would mention the locker cars. Each crew had one assigned to them. Where the crew went the locker car had to go. Imagine the switching involved at both Aurora and 14th st !
Sometime in the later part of the 60s the assigned locker cars were traded away for a morning wake up call for each and every Condr and trainman on morning trains. If the crew caller failed to call you and you were a bit of a hard core you could roll over,sleep in and get paid for the day. Of course there was a mad scramble to rotate guys around when you didn’t show up. Yes, the crew caller kept a log to CYA himself/herself.
Leo Phillipp On Oct 10, 2022, at 3:51 PM, Rupert Gamlen <gamlenz@hotmail.com> wrote:
According to the 1969 Ownership, Age & Condition Equipment List
700-729 built 1950
730-739 built 1953
740-749 built 1955
750-759 built 1957
760-787 built 1965
790-795 built 1965
96 seats lower level, 52 seats in the gallery, while toilet cars seated 94 and 51 respectively.
>From the January 1965 List (before the 1965 equipment was listed), 725-731, 740-744 and 750-758 have an upper deck locker for trainmen, and 722-724, 733-736, 739, 745, 748-749 and 759 were “equipped with 27 conductor control wiring for push-pull service in
1964.”
Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] types of gallery cars
Groups 4 and 5 arrived after the merger. Group 4 was ordered by the Q, but delivered after the merger. WSMTD/BNSF still has 741-751, 753-780 and 782-787.
Superior, WI
The apparent confusion at Rapido got me to thinking...
From my personal observations, there are five types of Burlington
1: name board, no toilet, no cab, starting with 700.
2: name board, toilet, no cab, ending with 787. (I have never seen a 788
3: name board, toilet, cab, 790-795. (no photo found on rrpicturearchives)
4: no name board, toilet, cab, 796-815.
5: no name board, toilet, no cab, 816-820.
I believe types 1 and 2 were ordered in alternating lots, but I don't
have ready access to my notes detailing which numbers are which types.
I believe Metra has purged all of type 1.
Metra has removed the cabs from all type 3 and 4 cars, plating over the
In my mind, types 4 and 5 are "BN cars," but I don't know when they were
actually ordered. I assume they were bought by WSMTD rather than the
All cars with toilets are oriented with the toilet in the southwest
corner. This was the biggest flaw with the Holgate & Reynolds and Kiel
(Keil?) Line models: they had the toilet in the wrong place so it would
In all groups, underbody details changed over time, first with 480V HEP
replacing the propane air conditioners, and I think the HEP connectors
were modified when the E9s were retired. And of course the big BN logo
boards were added below the windows, etc.
After type 5 come the various orders of "RTA cars" which look different
and have 4-digit numbers.
Do I have all of this right?
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