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RE: [CBQ] Cab Signals (was PRR-UP power)

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Subject: RE: [CBQ] Cab Signals (was PRR-UP power)
From: HOL WAGNER <holpennywagner@msn.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 08:36:33 -0600
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As Jim Sandrin explained a couple of days ago, a UP pilot unit was added to the westbound train at Grand Island -- and removed there ont he eastbound trip.  The Q did not have cab signals in any of its freight units.
 
Bear in mind, too, that just as the UP, PRR, NYC, etc., power made it into Denver regularly, so did that power continue on west well past North Platte on the UP, often running all the way through to the West Coast.  And though the UP agreed not to run its big "double diesels" -- DD35s, U50s and C855s -- on these trains or any others that ran through on the Q, it did happen from time to time, and I have photos taken here in Denver to prove it.  The Q power also made it into Denver on the UP.
 
Hol
 

To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
From: thommack@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 14:22:39 +0000
Subject: [CBQ] Cab Signals (was PRR-UP power)

 
A friend of mine who is well acquainted with the Union Pacific brought up cab control signal (CCS) implications. This train would have needed UP style CCS from Grand Island to North Platte on the UP. He asked whether PRR or CB&Q required Cab Signal or ATS on freight for their sections? On westbound was a UP CCS leader added at Grand Island to replace the PRR one?

I did not think CB&Q had cab signals in their freight units. The PRR might have for northeast operations, but I don't know.

Can anyone shed light on this cab signal conundrum?

Tom Mack
Cincinnati, OH

--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "Larry" <lsallee@...> wrote:
>
> Okay, now I've got another shot here
> <https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/UEEHSBgx_k4vY3l2bC_rStMTjNZETYmyP\
> Jy0liipFm0?feat=directlink> I have questions about. Anyone
> know/guess/speculate about what this train might have been and why it
> would have had only PRR and UP power (and it looks like those two middle
> engines are UP cabless units)?
>
> Larry
>




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