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From: Stephen Levine <sjl_prodigynet@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 12:56:16 -0700 (PDT)
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I thought that, after 1952, the sleepers, observation cars, and diners were 
interlined with the California Zephyr.

--- On Tue, 5/3/11, Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com <Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com> wrote:

From: Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com <Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Heavyweights after 1948
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2011, 5:59 PM







 



  


    
      
      
      

The Omaha Club and, I can't remember which car ran on the other side of the 
Aksarben  (3-30) in the 1950's.  They were heavyweights and ran on the rear end.



I used to go down and get him out of town several nights a week 1954-58.



Pete



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From: Nelson Moyer <ku0a@mchsi.com>

To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Tue, May 3, 2011 4:57 pm

Subject: RE: [CBQ] Heavyweights after 1948



I'm pretty sure the car I found lettered Ak-Sar-Ben was a photo taken after

1948 but I don't remember the exact date or where I saw it (I think it may

have been in BB#42 in the postwar Exposition flyer equipment photos, but it

could have been in Strauss' Vol. II). The Ak-Sar-Ben was streamline in the

1950's, so I don't know why the heavyweight car was still around unless it

was being used on the Exposition Flier between 1948 and 1949 when the CZ

started running. I know the Exposition Flyer had eclectic consists at the

end.



There were obviously exceptions (aren't there always!), because Spoor's

Color Guide shows a photo of Omaha Club in Pullman green with Burlington on

the letterboard (see page 26). Strangely, somebody used Railroad Roman

instead of ribbon for Burlington when the car was repainted, probably during

restoration. The photo was taken on a railfan trip in 1959. Several coaches

and chair cars in the same book had Burlington on the letterboard, always in

ribbon type.



I just scratchbuilt two BA-19A cars painted Pullman green with ribbon decals

from Microscale. The next one will be a BA-19 in shadow-line.



Nelson



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rgortowski@aol.com

Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 4:23 PM

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Heavyweights after 1948



Nelson,



Lettering of the "name trains" happened way earlier than the time period you

are talking about. They are a whole other story!



The Walthers cars used the Ribbon-style lettering. The Pullman sleepers

didn't get this type of lettering. Make sure to use Railroad Roman style.



Rich G.



-----Original Message-----

From: Nelson Moyer <ku0a@mchsi.com>

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Sent: Tue, May 3, 2011 4:15 pm

Subject: RE: [CBQ] Heavyweights after 1948



The only relettered car I've found a photo of is Omaha Club relettered with

Ak-Sar-Ben on the letterboard and Omaha Club on the side in the center.



Walthers 'generic' Burlington heavyweight cars have lots of problems, but

the funniest ones are on the decal set with Charles A. Bloodwater instead of

Broadwater, and Aurthur A. Denny (sic). I wonder who selected the car names

on the decal sheets, because none of them are usable. I guess something was

lost in translation in China.



Since I'm going to have to repaint some of my Branchline cars with other

road names, I may as well repaint the Walthers cars as well. Now if someone

has the lists I asked Hol about, I'll be ready to start disassembly.



Nelson



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Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 3:21 PM

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Heavyweights after 1948



Nelson,



The Q did not re-letter Pullman sleepers to "Burlington" on the letterboard

as long as the cars were in Pullman lease. The Walthers sleepers are

incorrect. When cars were withdrawn from Pullman lease, they typically

painted out the Pullman letterboard and left it blank. They also tended to

paint out the car name and letter it CB&Q, with a car number. Again

exceptions exist. I have not seen a photo of a Q Pullman sleeper with

Burlington on the letterboard. Lounges, diners, and observations - yes.

Sleepers, no. Many sleepers stayed in Pullman lease into the 1960's.



Rich G. 



-----Original Message-----

From: Nelson Moyer <ku0a@mchsi.com>

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Sent: Tue, May 3, 2011 3:08 pm

Subject: [CBQ] Heavyweights after 1948



Did the Q retain Pullman car names when they relettered heavyweights from

Pullman to Burlington? The books I have access to list both car names and

car numbers, but were both names and numbers used on sleepers in the late

1940s and early 1950s?



Nelson



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