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From: Norm Metcalf <n.metcalf@att.net>
Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 11:03:59 -0600
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        CBQ heavyweights after 1948
Date:   Wed, 4 May 2011 09:16:07 -0600
From:   HOL WAGNER

        

  Nelson:

No list, only personal observations.  Following are cars I saw or 
photographed in the early 19560s still with full Pullman lettering (in 
Dulux -- imitation gold -- Railroad Romasn, as Rich advised) and 
carrying their car names and no indication of Burlington ownership:

New Capitol (14 section)
Cornhusker, Estes Park (12-1)
Creighton University, Princeton Universtiy (12-2)

The above were, of course, in Pullman green paint.  In addition, the 
following rebuilt betterment cars (semi-streamlined for Zephyr service) 
were still in use in their Pullman light gray paint and with Zephyr 
Gothic lettering in black:

Denver Tower, Zephyr Tower (8-1-3)

Additionally, I have photos of may other heavyweight Pullmans in both 
green and gray with blank letterboards and only the CB&Q reporting marks 
and 600-series car numbers centered in two lines where the car name 
previously appeared.  Many of these photos appeared in Bill Glick's 
volume on Q passenger cars, still available direct from Bill.

Hope this helps some.

Hol
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Subject:        RE: [CBQ] Heavyweights after 1948
Date:   Tue, 3 May 2011 16:04:13 -0500
From:   Nelson Moyer <ku0a@mchsi.com> <mailto:ku0a@mchsi.com>
Reply-To:       CBQ@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
To:     <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com>

Hol,

Thanks for the information. Is there a list anywhere of the Pullman cars
that weren't relettered? Also, is there a list of Pullman car names that
were relettered that cross-indexes the Pullman name and the new CB&Q number?
I have several painted but unlettered Branchline passenger cars that I would
like to turn into prototype models circa 1950.

Nelson

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Subject: [CBQ] Heavyweights after 1948




from: HOL WAGNER



The heavyweight sleepers acquired by the Q in 1948 did not carry both
their CB&Q numbers and their Pullman names at the same time. Those that
got the Q numbers generally simply had Pullman painted out on the
letterboard and CB&Q 6XX painted in two lines in place of the car name,
centered beneath the windows. A good many of the cars, however, were
never relettered and after years of service on the Q, first in Pullman
lease and later as dorm cars and emergency coaches, went to scrap still
lettered Pullman and carrying their Pullman car names.

Hol Wagner

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Subject: [CBQ] Heavyweights after 1948
Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 15:08:59 -0500
From: Nelson Moyer <ku0a@mchsi.com <mailto:ku0a@mchsi.com>> 
<mailto:ku0a@mchsi.com <mailto:ku0a@mchsi.com>>
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Did the Q retain Pullman car names when they relettered heavyweights from
Pullman to Burlington? The books I have access to list both car names and
car numbers, but were both names and numbers used on sleepers in the late
1940s and early 1950s?

Nelson


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