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Re: [CBQ] East Leavenworth (was CB&Q stations eliminated pre-1909)

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From: Bill Hirt <whirt@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:43:16 -0500
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  Glen,

Some additional info. I talked to my CGW friend. He gave me some 
contacts with the timetables and I plan to get in contact with them to 
see if I can get a date. My CGW friend said Stillings Junction existed 
because the CGW used to change steam engines there. The CGW would run 
their big Texas class engines south to there, and then the train would 
be split with two smaller engines each taking a train to Kansas City. 
The curve off the Leavenworth bridge was very tight on the west side 
where the CGW started using trackage rights over the MP to Kansas City. 
He said you can still find the foundations of the engine house today if 
you know where to look where Stillings Junction was.

I'm also wondering if the drop off in the Leavenworth-East Leavenworth 
train shuttle corresponded with the MP Missouri River Eagle starting in 
1940. Leavenworth then had a direct streamlined train to/from Kansas 
City and Omaha and the resulting traffic drop off on the Q side made it 
more economical for the Q to switch to a bus. The train 
connection/shuttle from Atchison to Armour lasted at least another 10 
years into the early 50's which would suggest the traffic impact of the 
Eagle at Atchison was less.

Bill

On 7/25/2010 1:54 AM, GLEN HAUG wrote:
> Bill:
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> Regarding the line into Leavenworth, I found signal information indicating 
> that US&S electric train staff (a form of controlled manual block) was 
> installed between Stillings Jct. and Leavenworth, by MoPac (I think), in 
> about 1911 or 1913.  Do you happen to know when it was removed?  Could it 
> have been when the transfer trains stopped running?
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> Glen Haug
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> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
> From: whirt@sbcglobal.net
> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:50:08 -0500
> Subject: Re: [CBQ] CB&Q stations eliminated pre-1909
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> It's curious that East Leavenworth, Missouri, is on the list. The
> reason I say this is that on the St Joe Division Employee Timetable of
> 1938 virtually all mainline passenger trains stopped there (including
> the Pioneer Zephyr). Also there were six transfer trains per day each
> direction between Leavenworth, Kansas, and East Leavenworth to shuttle
> passengers to and from the mainline trains. By 1940, only one passenger
> train a day was stopping at East Leavenworth and the shuttle trains were
> gone. A Burlington Trailways bus was handling the connection between
> Leavenworth and East Leavenworth to Beverly, Missouri. Beverly, just
> north of East Leavenworth, now had the passenger stops. By the 1950's,
> no passenger trains were stopping at East Leavenworth.
>
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