Never say never. CB&Q #305 was in IC service (in IC paint) during some
portion of the winter of 1967. I have a perfect Kodachrome of it in
December 1967 with "Pullman" on the letterboard and "CB&Q initials at the
end of the letterboard next to the vestibule door. The "CB&Q" only
appears next to the door, but is not present at the non-vestibule end of
the car.
Also interestingly, the car number (#305) appears on the car side only at
the non-vestibule end of the car. It is centered in the orange portion
below the windows.
Mike Spoor.
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 20:30:59 -0500 "Dennis C. Henry" <dchenry@gac.edu>
writes:
>The Burlington did run the KCZ parlor-obs cars backwards in Twin
>Cities
>Zephyr service, but I believe that the dome seats could be rotated.
>There
>was a lively series of letters in Trains Magazine on the subject of
>running
>the cars backwards, about 1966 as I recall. I'm sure some others on
>this
>list can narrow this down more.
>
>Yes, the IC did awful things to the front windows of Budd dome
>coaches, but
>only to those they bought in the late 1960's from the Mopac, not the
>4-4-4
>dome sleepers from the NP in seasonal service. The Q's dome sleepers
>for
>the NCL (Nos. 304-305) were not among those the IC leased in the
>winter.
>
>Dennis Henry
>
>At 07:33 PM 4/11/04, you wrote:
>>The trains were always wyed, turned, or looped at the ends so that
>dome
>>passengers always faced forward. On the CP and Via trains, the
>passengers
>>rode
>>forward, but entered and exited forward except in the tail car, where
>the
>>stairway was in the normal position toward the rear of the car. In
>the
>>ACF-built
>>domes on the UP "City" trains, the floor in the dome was lower or the
>
>>seats not
>>high enough, so visibility forward was not as good as in a Budd-built
>dome.
>>When the IC leased an NP dome off the North Coast Limited for winter
>Florida
>>business, the IC plated over the front windows, removing all
>possibility of
>>forward vision. The Burlington's and Budd's design was best. Jim
>N.
>>
>
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