Pete
I'll give you the benefit of my law school education. Being around railroads
and hearing about "drafts" made me pay attention when we got to that subject.
Basically, a check is an order for the bank to pay out of your account to the
payee,i.e. a two party transaction. A draft on the other hand, is an order for
the bank to pay the payee from some other account, i.e. the draftee, a three
party transaction. That account can be the banks own account in which case at
some point the bank will make a "set off" against your account which amounts to
it being the same as a check but it could be some party that owes money to you
like perhaps a large shipper.
John
From: "Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com" <Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2011 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Shipping human remains by rail
John et al
I trust that this little discussion will impress the "younger generation" as to
the intricacies and all the intimate details of railroad and station accounting
procedures. It's unbelievable the detail the railroads went to to account for
"every little thing". If it was done there were instructions somewhere that
covered the matter..And "woe be unto" the new hire who didn't know of or follow
the instructions.
I once incurred the wrath of an old time accountant at the Rock Island by
writing a draft to the CB&Q to pay for tickets for two car inspectors we were
sending out to testify in a court case......DON'T YOU KNOW YOU DON'T EVER WRITE
A DRAFT TO ANOTHER RAILROAD he yelled at me when the cleared draft came over
his desk....He berated me for some minutes for my ignorance of railroad
procedures.
For the record my ignorance is still in full bloom in this matter...Although it
has been explained to me many times I still do not know or understand the
difference between a CHECK and a DRAFT To this day I can remember the agent on
the RPL&N saying he was going uptown to the bank to get a DRAFT.
I know no more about these matters now than I did 60 plus years ago.
Pete
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From: John D. Mitchell, Jr. <cbqrr47@yahoo.com>
To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Jun 4, 2011 3:46 pm
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Shipping human remains by rail
With a little digging I found it. Yes, the corpse escort ticket was a reduced
fare. Interestingly, an excess baggage check was issued for the casket but no
revenue was reported on the baggage report but the baggage report was to show a
complete description of the corpse ticket. The complete corpse ticket was
attached to the baggage check (form 62), to be forwarded. This was, of coarse,
at the destination.
From: "John D. Mitchell, Jr." <cbqrr47@yahoo.com>
To: "CBQ@yahoogroups.com" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2011 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Shipping human remains by rail
Pete,
If I remember correctly it (the escort's) was a reduced fare and IT was round
trip! I don't have my agent manual or conductor's instructions handy.
John
From: "Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com" <Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2011 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Shipping human remains by rail
Dan
There is a picture "out there" which would be perfect for your
demonstration...Only problem is I can't remember exactly where I saw it..I'm
copying everybody you included in the hope that someone will recall it.
The scene was "down south"..probably in the 30's or 40's...showing the hearse
backed up to the depot platform with the undertaker and his helper standing by
while the casket was being unloaded from the baggage car.
This may have been in "Classic Trains or its predecessor Vintage Rails or
perhaps even TRAINS.
I'll begin a search, but it will striclty be by memory of where it is.....
Just to add to what John Mitchell said, there was a provision in the tariff
which provided for an escort to accompany the casket...I don't recall the
details.
On a personal note I have, on more than one occasion observed the unloading of
a casket at Langdon, MO on the CB&Q and the scene was just as depicted in the
photo mentioned above.
Pete Hedgpeth
-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel <no17eng654@aol.com>
To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Jun 4, 2011 9:31 am
Subject: [CBQ] Shipping human remains by rail
As part of the Manly Jct. Railroad Museum (Iowa)displays, we will have 17 flat
screens depicting different North Iowa-Southern Minnesota railroads. In
addition, we will feature things like Railway Mail Service, Railway Express,
etc. Many human remains were transferred in North Iowa and Southern Minnesota
by rail up to discontinuance of most trains in the late 60's.
Would anyone out there be able to share a photo that would demonstrate the
common scene of handling human remains by train?
Dan Sabin
No17Eng654@aol.com
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