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RE: [CBQ] Branchline Pullman Cars

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Subject: RE: [CBQ] Branchline Pullman Cars
From: "Myers, Scott V." <svmyers@southernco.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:36:42 -0500
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Thread-topic: [CBQ] Branchline Pullman Cars
Bob,

I was not aware that NKP car company had sides available to fit the Branchline 
kits.  Can you give us some more details?  For instance, you mentioned sides 
for the 8-3-1 series.  Are these shown on their website?

BB#42 has a nice photo of 8-1-2 John Forbes on page 246, by the way.

Scott Myers


-----Original Message-----
From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Bob Webber
Sent: Fri 4/13/2007 2:55 PM
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CBQ] Branchline Pullman Cars
 
It depends on era, assignments and seasons.

Era is either between 1923-1948/9 and 1949-mid 60's.  Before 1923, 
the Branchline cars will do you no good, as that is the first 
occurrence of the 3nnn series plan cars (as opposed to the 
2nnn).  The latter era reflects the distribution of the assets from 
Pullman's divestiture after the 3 suits brought by the government 
related to anti-trust violations.

Assignments are important as specific series of cars were assigned to 
specific trains.  In some cases, in the latter era, these could be 
either from the newly constituted Pullman Pool, or from the cars the 
CB&Q received from divestiture and now owned.  The easiest way to 
determine that is to look in the PTT of the period you are interested 
in and look at the equipment section for the train you are interested 
in.  It will typically provide the floor plan for the sleepers and in 
some cases if they are HW or LW.  In most cases, it's relatively easy 
to tell.   Not in all cases, as there were LW & HW 16 section cars 
(as one example).  Consists are another method of determining cars.

Seasons are as important as the other two because of the change in 
equipment that the summer season typically brought - although there 
were some changes due to winter trains for ski extras as well.   But, 
typically, it was the summer trains that expanded and typically, (at 
least in the 40's and 50's) that is where you might see the HWs.

Having said all that (for post 1948), the 14 section is a good car - 
but.  The 12-1 section is a good car.. but.   The 10-1-1 (date TBD) 
is a good car .. but.. The "but" is that you have to be VERY sure you 
get the car with  the correct equipment.   You have to take a look at 
the car you want, vs the equipment it had vs the assignment.  It 
isn't hard to do thanks to Tom Maddens database (at the Pullman 
Project web site).

But - before you go there, you have to decide the first three 
picks.  Figure out where and when, and then the cars will somewhat 
drop into place.  Unfortunately, a lot of the cars the Q got were 
rebuilds (unfortunately for us, not the Q) and thus they are a bit 
harder to come by.  Fortunately for us, Tom, at NKP Car has developed 
some sides to combine with the Branchline core to add to the fleet - 
like the TOWER series 8-1-3s.



At 12:19 PM 4/13/2007, CBQ@yahoogroups.com wrote:

>I'm interested in aquiring Branchline heavyweight pullman cars.  Question is
>how to order whatever they have that is close to Burlington.  I know that
>CB&Q hw sleepers were normally lettered "Pullman".  I have enough photos and
>passenger decals to letter the cars the way I want them, but don't know how
>to order the best likeness of what the Burlington used.  Appreciate any help
>I can get.       Dale Reeves




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