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Subject: [CBQ] Re: Q Operations Question
From: "soocarman" <mitchc2@juno.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 18:05:52 -0000
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Also back in those days railroads had to get the cars back to their 
owners after it they are emptied.  I don't think a railroad would 
use a foreign car for loading.  You world use on of your own to get 
more money.
If someone can explain this better in the rules that were in place 
back in the 60's.
Thanks

Mitch 
--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "thommack" <thommack@y...> wrote:
> Thanks for the help so far. This is exactly what I was looking 
for. I
> know if the load changes that would be two separate waybills/cars -
> e.g. Coil steel comes into R&RW Metals in a coil car, goes out as
> stamped and coated plates in a boxcar.
> 
> The trickier one that really brought up this question is where the
> steel comes in as a couple of large billets in say a gondola or on 
a
> heavy duty flat, gets coated or treated (lets say within 1-2 days
> max), then needs to go to final destination. I would have thought 
in
> this case it might be more cost effective for the parties involved 
to
> pay demurrage for an extra day or two for the car to stick around,
> rather than waiting for a new car to come in and also possibly pay 
the
> extra switching charge. But I wasn't sure if that was legal under
> tarriff laws in 67/68. So, what's the verdict on this scenario?
> 
> Tom
> 
> --- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, Russell Strodtz <19main@g...> wrote:
> > John,
> > 
> > I have to disagree. The Transit Billing system did
> > not allow for a car to arrive at a Customer and
> > leave on the same billing. That concept would only
> > apply to stop-offs and all they would allow is partial
> > loading or partial unloading. Nothing could be removed
> > from the car and then put back in.
> > 
> > I stand by what I've already said.
> > 
> > Russ
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: John D. Mitchell, Jr. 
> >   To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com 
> >   Sent: Monday, 08 August, 2005 22:02
> >   Subject: Re: [CBQ] Q Operations Question
> > 
> > 
> >   If there was a tariff for "transit privileges" for
> >   that industry at that point, then the steel could be
> >   processed with one waybill, one rate, one car, and on
> >   one billing. If not then there would be two cars, two
> >   waybills, two billings and in all likely hood two
> >   rates (finished products carry a higher rate than raw
> >   materials). A good traffic manager for the steel
> >   company would work out a transit tariff.
> > 
> >   --- thommack <thommack@y...> wrote:
> > 
> >   > In 1967/68 timeframe, if a car on the CB&Q was sent
> >   > to an industry
> >   > with a load that was being processed and then
> >   > forwarded to another
> >   > industry, could it be shipped in and out on the same
> >   > car, or was it
> >   > two separate waybills and thus two different cars?
> >   > On my CB&Q layout
> >   > one of my industries is a large metal treating and
> >   > coating shop. Large
> >   > steel castings or sheets come in via flat car or
> >   > gondola, are
> >   > treated/coated, then sent on to the final
> >   > destination. Can I ship a
> >   > large steel piece in and out on the same car, or
> >   > would the load have
> >   > been unloaded, then a new car sent later to pick up
> >   > the finished product?
> >   > 
> >   > Thanks,
> >   > 
> >   > Tom Mack
> >   > Cincinnati, OH
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   > 
> > 
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