Tom,
Switching charges:
Industry does not pay anything for spotting a car or
pulling it out when released. That is part of the
service. Only charges that might be assessed would
be if the car is properly spotted and they want it
pulled out and another car in it's place and then
re-spotted later. That is a "intra-plant switch".
Re-Loads:
Yes, industry can freely re-load cars unless they are
subject to some car service rule that would not allow
it.
Your idea:
Your car arrives and is spotted on Monday and unloaded
on Tuesday. The demurrage clock has started and stopped
and no charges yet.
[Per Diem clock runs all the time and involves funds
transferred from one Railroad to another. Industry has
no interest or involvement.]
Management at industry knows that all the right blocking
will be in place in the inbound car and wants to re-use
it. Back on Thursday or Friday of the previous week they
place a car order for say, Thursday, of the week of
expected arrival and specify, "will use cars on hand".
We are presuming that they have track space and that the
extra car will not be in the way or need to be moved
excessively. They will be in communication with the Agent
and car will not be marked, "to pull".
Order for car was entered for Thursday and car goes back
on demurrage. It's loaded and billed on Friday, demurrage
clock turns off. Car is pulled Monday and goes on it's
way.
This is a reasonable scenario. Can anything here go wrong?
Yes, but this is already too long and will save that for
later.
Russ
----- Original Message -----
From: thommack
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 19 August, 2005 05:55
Subject: [CBQ] Re: Q Operations Question
OK, this thread is getting better, just don't come to blows over
little ole me! :-)
Seriously, reviewing this thread, could my "traffic manager" at R&RW
Metals have worked out a "transit tarrif" so they didn't have to wait
for a new car to send out the large processed steel pieces (just keep
the same car the steel piece came in on)? John says yes, Russ says no way.
What confuses me still is if a load comes in on, say, a NYC gondola
and will only take a day or two to process, why not pay a couple of
days per diem just to keep the car on the property anbd get the load
shipped back out in a more timely manner? Even if the empty car was
picked up by the Q, theoritically, couldn't a good Q yardmaster just
keep the car in the yard a day or two, then send it back to make sure
the shipper got good service by getting an empty car in a timely
manner? Or would the yardmaster try to get an empty Q gondola to the
shipper, thus not have to share the revenue? I guess what I keep
thinking of is that to my understanding the railroad charged a fee for
each switching move, so the industry would have to pay for multiple
switching fees, which seem to me to be much higher than just paying a
few extra days per diem to keep the car if possible. For that matter,
to my understanding, an industry has a couple of days or so to get the
car unloaded, and if it goes overtime pays a per diem charge. So if
the empty car "just happens to be here" when we're ready to ship the
load out (because we got the steel piece processed in just a day or
two or three), why can't the industry request to use the car still on
hand?
FYI, the reason why this is important to me right now is I have all my
new waybills done for my CB&Q layout **except** for the loaded gons
and flats going to R&RW metals. I need to know whether I can do a
"loaded in, loaded out" waybill, or have to now do two separate
waybills - loaded in/empty out, empty in/loaded out.
Tom Mack
Cincinnati, OH
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