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1. [CBQ] Streamlined Jim Crow Coach (score: 1): Author: Stephen Levine <sjl_prodigynet@yahoo.com>; Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:13:04 -0700 (PDT); I was looking at the plans for chair car 4712, Silver Crown, in a book of Burlington Passenger Car Diagrams published in the mid 80's by Railway Production Classics (David Randall's firm). The plans; /archives/BRHSLIST/2011-09/msg00136.html (11,704 bytes)
2. Re: [CBQ] Streamlined Jim Crow Coach (score: 1): Author: rgortowski@aol.com; Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 22:57:09 -0400 (EDT); Steven, That has to be a mistake. In Randall's later book - "The Passenger Car Library - Volume 1 - CB&Q" he shows that 4712 - Silver Crown - was part of a 6 car order for 52 seat coaches. They we de; /archives/BRHSLIST/2011-09/msg00138.html (12,861 bytes)
3. Re: [CBQ] Streamlined Jim Crow Coach (score: 1): Author: Stephen Levine <sjl_prodigynet@yahoo.com>; Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 07:37:42 -0700 (PDT); The interesting thing about the diagram in the Passenger Car Diagrams book is that the window pattern of the car is no different than its sisters. Thus the Jim Crow restrooms share a common window,; /archives/BRHSLIST/2011-09/msg00146.html (13,308 bytes)
4. Re: [CBQ] Streamlined Jim Crow Coach (score: 1): Author: "Mike Cafferata" <mcaff1@htc.net>; Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 11:45:00 -0500; Looking at CB&Q passenger car plans in a book from Railway Production Classics, a later modification seems to have taken place. Silver Crown is listed separately from the other cars that were built a; /archives/BRHSLIST/2011-09/msg00149.html (10,652 bytes)
5. Re: [CBQ] Streamlined Jim Crow Coach (score: 1): Author: "John D. Mitchell, Jr." <cbqrr47@yahoo.com>; Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 11:21:03 -0700 (PDT); Some of the early stainless steel passenger cars with disk brakes had sand boxes(and automatic systems for application) for braking purposes. Looking at CB&Q passenger car plans in a book from Rail; /archives/BRHSLIST/2011-09/msg00151.html (11,339 bytes)
6. RE: [CBQ] Streamlined Jim Crow Coach (score: 1): Author: HOL WAGNER <holpennywagner@msn.com>; Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 07:36:06 -0600; Back from a weekend trip to find nearly a dozen messages on this subject, and you are all overlooking the obvious and often reported answer: When Zephyr 9901, running as the Sam Houston Zephyr, was d; /archives/BRHSLIST/2011-09/msg00171.html (14,751 bytes)
7. Re: [CBQ] Streamlined Jim Crow Coach (score: 1): Author: rgortowski@aol.com; Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 09:52:33 -0400 (EDT); See? I knew Hol would have the answer! Of course that makes sense, with the 9901 burning up. Do you have any idea for how long Jim Crow arrangements were maintained on the C&S? Rich ack from a weeken; /archives/BRHSLIST/2011-09/msg00172.html (15,072 bytes)
8. RE: [CBQ] Streamlined Jim Crow Coach (score: 1): Author: HOL WAGNER <holpennywagner@msn.com>; Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 07:58:31 -0600; Rich: The partitions were still in the C&S-FW&D Texas Zephyr coaches when they were sent to the Q in the late 1960s. Hol See? I knew Hol would have the answer! Of course that makes sense, with the 99; /archives/BRHSLIST/2011-09/msg00174.html (15,624 bytes)
9. RE: [CBQ] Streamlined Jim Crow Coach (score: 1): Author: Stephen Levine <sjl_prodigynet@yahoo.com>; Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 07:02:14 -0700 (PDT); That definitely explains it. While I was aware that the CB&Q provided the equipment for the Sam Houston Zephyr, I was not aware which equipment it was. Thanks. Back from a weekend trip to find near; /archives/BRHSLIST/2011-09/msg00175.html (15,005 bytes)
10. Re: [CBQ] Streamlined Jim Crow Coach (score: 1): Author: Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com; Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 12:10:04 -0400 (EDT); Way to go HOL Us old guys have a perspective that many of the "younguns" don't have....Thanks Pete...maybe even older than you are ack from a weekend trip to find nearly a dozen messages on this subj; /archives/BRHSLIST/2011-09/msg00178.html (15,019 bytes)
11. RE: [CBQ] Streamlined Jim Crow Coach (score: 1): Author: Stephen Levine <sjl_prodigynet@yahoo.com>; Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 17:41:53 -0700 (PDT); Were there any in the streamlined coaches? The diagrams of C&S and FW&D Budd coaches in the Burlington Passenger Car diagram book that I cited earlier show none. However diagrams of FW&D heavyweigh; /archives/BRHSLIST/2011-09/msg00185.html (16,363 bytes)

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