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Re: [CBQ] Streamlined Jim Crow Coach

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Streamlined Jim Crow Coach
From: Stephen Levine <sjl_prodigynet@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 07:37:42 -0700 (PDT)
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The interesting thing about the diagram in the Passenger Car Diagrams book is 
that the window pattern of the car is no different than its sisters.  Thus the 
Jim Crow restrooms share a common window, suggesting to me that the 
configuration was an afterthought.

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From: rgortowski@aol.com <rgortowski@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Streamlined Jim Crow Coach
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, September 24, 2011, 9:57 PM


  




Steven,

That has to be a mistake. In Randall's later book - "The Passenger Car Library 
- Volume 1 - CB&Q" he shows that 4712 - Silver Crown - was part of a 6 car 
order for 52 seat coaches. They we delivered in June of 1940, and the diagram 
does not show any Jim Crow facilities. I think the C&S may have had a Jim Crow 
section in a streamlined car (Sam Houston Zephyr?), but I'm not sure. My brain 
doesn't stray too far from the Illinois border... ;-)

Rich G.

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Levine <sjl_prodigynet@yahoo.com>
To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Sep 24, 2011 9:13 pm
Subject: [CBQ] Streamlined Jim Crow Coach

I was looking at the plans for chair car 4712, Silver Crown, in a book of 
Burlington Passenger Car Diagrams published in the mid 80's by Railway 
Production Classics (David Randall's firm). The plans for this 1940 Budd car 
show a partitioned Jim Crow section on its vestibule end with "Negro" men's and 
women's restrooms. This is the first time I have noticed this oddity.

Why in the world would the Burlington need a Jim Crow car? I don't think any of 
the states it served had Jim Crow laws. The General Pershing Zephyr cars, which 
served Missouri, did not have Jim Crow sections.



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