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1. [CBQ] Elephant Style Es (score: 1): Author: "tubaman21@yahoo.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: 12 Dec 2016 06:52:57 -0800; Group, The following question was posed on the IlliniRail list and has generated some discussion there. "The Burlington isn't unique in this, but it seems like throughout much of the '60s it increasi; /archives/BRHSLIST/2016-12/msg00023.html (14,725 bytes)
2. Re: [CBQ] Elephant Style Es (score: 1): Author: "Bill Scott wscott@optonline.net [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 10:24:22 -0500; __._,_.___ Visit Your Group Yahoo! Groups • Privacy • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use __,_._,___; /archives/BRHSLIST/2016-12/msg00024.html (22,474 bytes)
3. Re: [CBQ] Elephant Style Es (score: 1): Author: "thommack@yahoo.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: 13 Dec 2016 04:19:55 -0800; __._,_.___ Posted by: thommack@yahoo.com Visit Your Group Yahoo! Groups • Privacy • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use __,_._,___; /archives/BRHSLIST/2016-12/msg00037.html (24,581 bytes)
4. RE: [CBQ] Elephant Style Es (score: 1): Author: "'Charlie Vlk' cvlk@comcast.net [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 13:34:28 -0600; All- Im not sure why a failure (short of a catastrophic one that rendered the controls or cab unusable) would make the elephant style desirable. Would not the bad prime mover (or entire lead unit); /archives/BRHSLIST/2016-12/msg00049.html (13,984 bytes)
5. Re: [CBQ] Elephant Style Es (score: 1): Author: "Gordon Smith kc2bw@optonline.net [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 15:43:54 -0500; If a lead unit suffers a failure that incapacitates it or renders it non-compliance per FRA regs or otherwise unsafe to occupy or operate from then it has to be removed from service. Now lets say som; /archives/BRHSLIST/2016-12/msg00057.html (13,225 bytes)
6. Re: [CBQ] Elephant Style Es (score: 1): Author: "qutlx1@aol.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 17:15:39 -0600; If a lead unit suffers a failure that incapacitates it or renders it non-compliance per FRA regs or otherwise unsafe to occupy or operate from then it has to be removed from service. Now lets say so; /archives/BRHSLIST/2016-12/msg00063.html (15,523 bytes)
7. Re: [CBQ] Elephant Style Es (score: 1): Author: "Edwardsutorik@aol.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: 11 Jan 2018 23:32:46 +0000; I'm "collecting" Burlington E's to pull various trains. And, of course, one MUST look at photos to get things right. It becomes obvious that elephant-style setups were very common during my time of i; /archives/BRHSLIST/2018-01/msg00056.html (14,940 bytes)
8. Re: [CBQ] Elephant Style Es (score: 1): Author: "Don Brown dbrown02@rochester.rr.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:53:09 -0500; I can't speak for what CBQ did and why, but I'm guessing you're overthinking it. Most often on roads I'm familiar with, it was a case of what was available and ready to go. Especially back in those; /archives/BRHSLIST/2018-01/msg00057.html (17,841 bytes)
9. Re: [CBQ] Elephant Style Es (score: 1): Author: "'Doug Harding' doug.harding@iowacentralrr.org [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:36:22 -0600; I agree with Don, fuel consumption and wind resistance were non issues during the heyday of F units. Elephant style would also assume a means of turning the locomotive, ie a loop, wye or turntable. B; /archives/BRHSLIST/2018-01/msg00059.html (14,474 bytes)
10. Re: [CBQ] Elephant Style Es (score: 1): Author: "Edwardsutorik@aol.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: 12 Jan 2018 00:55:25 +0000; Single E's likely ran on branch lines. And there's pretty much only one way to put an E on a train. And turning that E, or not, is not really part of this. We're talking running 2 and more E's (becau; /archives/BRHSLIST/2018-01/msg00060.html (14,237 bytes)
11. Re: [CBQ] Elephant Style Es (score: 1): Author: "Edwardsutorik@aol.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: 12 Jan 2018 01:09:19 +0000; I agree there is less wind resistance at the connection between when two E's are coupled back to back. But note that the car behind them has a goodly bit of flat frontal area. And it is hugely expose; /archives/BRHSLIST/2018-01/msg00061.html (14,770 bytes)
12. RE: [CBQ] Elephant Style Es (score: 1): Author: "'Tom Kline' TKline@airmail.net [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 20:01:17 -0600; Elephant-style consists were a Mechanical Department decision to provide a Plan B when you have a lead unit failure out on the road. Delay out on the mainline on any railroad is a major concern. The; /archives/BRHSLIST/2018-01/msg00065.html (19,544 bytes)
13. RE: [CBQ] Elephant Style Es (score: 1): Author: "Edwardsutorik@aol.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: 12 Jan 2018 02:55:09 +0000; Tom, I'm not a follower of Santa Fe locomotive practice. But on the NP there was a similar setup: You could see the North Coast Limited being hauled by an AABA set. The front two A's were both cab fo; /archives/BRHSLIST/2018-01/msg00069.html (15,044 bytes)
14. RE: [CBQ] Elephant Style Es (score: 1): Author: "'Tom Kline' TKline@airmail.net [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:43:22 -0600; Ed, I think it was a proactive better-safe-than-sorry approach to operations on the Santa Fe. I cant comment as to why NP and others chose to operate with a single cab forward but Im sure there was; /archives/BRHSLIST/2018-01/msg00070.html (18,538 bytes)
15. Re: [CBQ] Elephant Style Es (score: 1): Author: "Kenneth Martin kmartin537@surewest.net [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:03:00 -0800; I have heard two reasons for running elephant style neither having to do with fuel economy. First was when they started combining Zephyrs out of Chicago they would run units cab forward so that when; /archives/BRHSLIST/2018-01/msg00074.html (13,291 bytes)
16. Re: [CBQ] Elephant Style Es (score: 1): Author: "Edwardsutorik@aol.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: 12 Jan 2018 21:08:14 +0000; "...combining Zephyrs out of Chicago..." That sounds interesting. Which trains were those, and where did they split? That Menk thing. It's been noted by others. I'd surely like to see documentation o; /archives/BRHSLIST/2018-01/msg00076.html (14,813 bytes)
17. Re: [CBQ] Elephant Style Es (score: 1): Author: "Edwardsutorik@aol.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: 12 Jan 2018 21:22:01 +0000; __._,_.___ Posted by: Edwardsutorik@aol.com Visit Your Group New Members 1 Yahoo! Groups • Privacy • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use __,_._,___; /archives/BRHSLIST/2018-01/msg00077.html (15,572 bytes)
18. Re: [CBQ] Elephant Style Es (score: 1): Author: "Bill Hirt whirt@fastmail.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 15:36:02 -0600; This was an issue on the Q too. Several years ago the TRRA Historical Society did an entire bulletin on the Zephyr Rocket. The Zephyr Rocket was always assigned one E unit. E5s at the inaugural in 19; /archives/BRHSLIST/2018-01/msg00079.html (15,336 bytes)
19. Re: [CBQ] Elephant Style Es (score: 1): Author: "Bill Hirt whirt@fastmail.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 15:53:51 -0600; The Kansas City Zephyr and the Nebraska Zephyr were combined starting starting October 28, 1962 according to John Strauss Jr.'s Burlington Route Passenger Trains Volume 3. The train also picked head; /archives/BRHSLIST/2018-01/msg00080.html (17,426 bytes)
20. Re: [CBQ] Elephant Style Es (score: 1): Author: "Bill Hirt whirt@fastmail.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 16:01:06 -0600; There were not enough cab cars in 1965 order to make ,many commuter trains push-pull. Only 6 cars (790-795) with cab controls were delivered by Budd. Nowhere near enough. So E units continued to turn; /archives/BRHSLIST/2018-01/msg00081.html (16,586 bytes)

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