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Ed, After reading some posts years ago on elephant style E's I started making note of the Q E-unit consists shown in photos. This was not only for historical research purposes but also because I want to make my passenger trains on my post-1965 C&I layout as realistic as possible. There was a noticeable change, at least in the photo record, of the number of consists with elephant-style E's vs. back-to-back E's. The difference was so noticeable that I started making note in my consists lists of the E-unit consists that were NOT elephant style. I really am not a fan of elephant style when it comes to aesthetics, so I wanted to confirm that some trains post-1965 were still running with at least one E-unit facing backwards. While I have found a number of examples, showing that it did still happen up through the BN merger, it became very clear that the norm was elephant style. In the early 60's photos elephant style was not seen much in photos. So while I can't definitively show any policy document, the photo evidence definitely convinced me that something had to have happened to make elephant style the definite preference (at least on the C&I) starting around 1967. Tom Mack Cincinnati, OH ---In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, <Edwardsutorik@...> wrote : Walter, I'd like to see that evidence. Of course, there's a difference between it happening occasionally and happening regularly, perhaps by policy. Thanks for the story. One has to work with what one gets. Ed Edward Sutorik __._,_.___ Posted by: thommack@yahoo.com __,_._,___ |