Ed,
    Re: bad job of maintenance
    I'll pass on a story that Ed Abbott, a Milwaukee Road Road
      Foreman during the Q years and later worked for Metra as road
      foreman, told me about Q E units in the late 1960s. The Q was
      running a detour on the Milwaukee. He asked the Q crew if they
      wanted to run the units. They passed on that and said they would
      be happy to have Milwaukee Road crew to do so. However, he said
      the Q crew told them these were not Milwaukee Road E units and
      they will really take off when notch them out (and he said they
      certainly did). He also remarked they were cleanest E units he had
      ever been in. In fact, he said the floor was clean enough he could
      of probably could of eaten off it. So based on that story and
      others I've heard, they were very well maintained.
    Maybe Lenny Ohrnell can pass on the story about the engineer
      running the Zephyr from the second unit into Burlington one day
      due to cab failure in the lead unit. Certainly an advantage of
      running elephant style.
    
    Bill Hirt
    
    
    
    
      
      
      David,
      
      
      I have heard that (about minimizing time loss).  It was said
        earlier in the topic.  But rather than assertions, I would like
        facts.  If you know of some in the Bulletins, it would be nice
        if you could reveal them.  If this was policy for the reasons
        you say, there would be a paper trail.
      
      
      It sounds like a lead unit failing was common enough that
        they had to develop a policy.  And it would seem that with such
        common failures, both in lead and trailing units, that the
        policy of assigning units to trains would have been very
        difficult to carry out.
      
      
      I note that other railroads didn't seem to have this problem.
         For example, the GN almost invariably ran an ABBA set on the
        Builder, with only the lead A facing forward.  GN COULD have run the trailing A
          with cab forward.  They
          chose not to.    Was GN doing such a superior
          job of maintenance that they didn't feel the need to follow
          the Q's example?   There were other railroads that kept their
          E's and F's in a comparative classic arrangement, rather than
          having the trailing A's facing forward, in case of lead unit
          failure.
      
        
      Why do you think the Q was
          doing such a bad job of maintenance that they were one of the
          very very few railroads that felt compelled to run their A's
          cab forward in case of lead unit failure?
      
      
      Ed
      
      
      Edward Sutorik
      
      
    
    
  
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