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Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 07:32:38 +1300
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Gents

Thanks again for the information. On the subject of books, last night I found a non-Google copy of The Story of the Pullman Car written in 1917 at
http://www.archive.org/details/storyofpullmancahusb I've also found an Arthur Dubin article on the Limited in "Trains" of August 1970.  However, there is no indication in the article as to ownership.

The reason I thought that St Paul, Alma and Winonna (together with Minneapolis, Maiden Rock and Savanna) were owned by Burlington as they had CB&Q numbers ( 500, 366, 402, 501, 401, 369) in Bill Glick's Roster, as did Wisconsin (#304")  Would the allocation of a number guarantee that it was owned by the Burlington or is that another fraught generalisation?

Piecing together the information would suggest that all the cars may have been owned originally by Pullman, but the non-sleepers were later sold to Burlington.

Rupert
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Pullman and sleeping cars


John, Bob and Rich

Thank you for your responses and information. It's more complicated that I anticipated so I'll come back with more queries later.

In passing, I've just found an 1897 article about a train built for the Chicago - St Paul service (Burlington Limited) 
"Probably the finest train of cars in the world was recently completed at the Pullman Car Works  for service on the CB&Q.  The names of these cars were "St Paul" for the composite car, "Parthenon" for the straight sleeper, "Apollo" for the compartment car, "Alma" for the chair car and "Winona" for the day coach." (I note there is no mention of dining cars.)

The article, which includes a photo of the train and interior shots, extols the quality of equipment and their beauty. Would I be correct, then, that Parthenon and Apollo (together with Pantheon and Angelo) were owned by Pullman and the other cars were owned by the Burlington?

Thanks again
 
Rupert
 



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