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Re: [CBQ] Pullman and sleeping cars

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Pullman and sleeping cars
From: Bob Webber <cz17@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:42:45 -0600
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CB&Q owned HW steel sleepers only after the Pullman suit - 1948.   Many didn't change much in appearance (initially) with a small "Burlington" on the ends, if that (initially).  If you look at Bill Glick's book, there are some drawings of cars.  Just be careful, as there are, as in all such publications, some issues (the sort of thing that enters into any publication or e-mail or laundry list).  

The best source for the configurations - a type of Rosetta Stone - are the Pullman List of cars and Descriptive List of Cars - some of which have been reprinted by Wayner.     This provides a cross reference between Plan, Diagram and Configuration.   (i.e. 2585 10-1-2). 

The best source for names and ownership and such is Tom Madden's database (The Pullman Project).   There is, in development, a publication that will be, in essence, a searchable combination of what is available in Wayner & Kratville & Barger (corrected) with builders photos, floor plans and side elevations (where available - as opposed to the paste-ups in some books) and will have, as one appendix, the cross reference as above.  In addition, graphical explanations as to accommodations (the difference between a compartment and a drawing room, for example).  A while in coming though.  




At 03:30 PM 2/15/2012, you wrote:
following up on this discussion--with the availability of a number of heavyweight cars now on the market [HO/N] my questions are---1 did the "Q" own heavyweight sleepers both pre and post 1947/48---2 is there a date base of names/numbers and what were the typical car configurations[10-1-1/12-1] used--i have utilized books/internet with more questions than answers---although this discussions has been a      big help in understanding the use of pullman  and or "sleepers" as terms----jim y



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