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Re: [CBQ] Gasoline motor car 1905

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Gasoline motor car 1905
From: STEVEN HOLDING <sholding@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 05:46:53 -0700 (PDT)
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Charlie
In my research for the Aurora Elevation Bulletin I found the Q had looked at 
electrifying the Chicago to Aurora Suburban line similar to what the IC had 
done.  This in an effort to eliminate the Smoke Problem which was a problem in 
the city.  There was also an effort to elevate from Berwyn to Naperville but 
the 
plan could not be sold to the city fathers along the line before the Depression 
stuck the Nation.  That would have followed the PRR (long an influence to the 
Q) 
with a 4 track mainline.  The Elevation in Aurora had been built to one side of 
the in place double track line with the idea two more tracks would have been 
added.
Can you imagine the 1954 gallery cars with a pantograph on the roof???
Steve in SC





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From: Rupert & Maureen <gamlenz@ihug.co.nz>
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Sent: Thu, August 12, 2010 3:17:34 AM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Gasoline motor car 1905

  
Charlie

>From Railway & Locomotive Engineering August 1904 

The Chicago, Burlington & Quincy people are reported to have been investigating 
the practicability of introducing electrical traction into their suburban 
service, and that the scheme has been abandoned for the present because they 
could not find a suitable motor.  That will not long obstruct the introduction 
of electrical power into the service of steam railroads.

Was this "scheme" a continuation of your project, perhaps?

Rupert

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "cvlk" <cvlk@comcast.net>
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Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 4:33 AM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Gasoline motor car 1905

> Rupert, Gerald and all...
> I don't have the citation handy (got to label, index, and rearrange my 
> computer 
>files better) but IRRC the 1905 Gas Motor was not the earliest sucessful 
>trials 
>of alternative motive power on the CB&Q.   With its scientific testing lab 
>program at Aurora the Q was constantly trying new technology.
> Not related to the CB&Q, but indicative of the work going on in the field, 
>about ten years earlier a new locomotive was tested in Chicago that was a 
>before-its-time Genset unit.... a prime mover running a generator that charged 
>batteries that in turn powered traction motors.   It even had regenerative 
>circuits.  No doubt the battery, prime mover,  and control technology 
>available 
>at the time conspired against the concept being a sucess, but it is 
>interesting 
>to see that there is very new under the sun!
> On a more directly Q related subject; does anyone have any CB&Q documentation 
>on the trials of the Farnham Third Rail System that was demonstrated at Clyde? 
> 
>Farnham worked for the CB&Q and patented an under-running third rail system 
>that 
>was used by the NYC and the predecessor of the South Shore Line.... it also 
>had 
>a sectional power activation feature that only energized the electrical block 
>that the train was drawing power from.   I cannot locate exactly where the 
>track 
>was that was used for the trials.... from the few photos I've seen it might be 
>on the north side of the mainline around where Ryerson Steel was at 26th 
>Street.
> Charlie Vlk

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