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From: STEVEN HOLDING <sholding@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 05:38:38 -0700 (PDT)
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Rupert
First you have to define motor car.  One would be passenger carrying used in 
scheduled service the other would be used for MOW service.  Early MOW cars were 
the pump type and at an early date motors were built to attach to them to speed 
and save labor in getting the MOW men over the road for inspection and 
maintenance.  They were often sold as kits.  

In an effort to combat the growing electric interurban invasion into the local 
passenger business many steam roads experimented with early motor cars.  The 
Alton Railroad, Rock Island and CB&Q all used early cars to combat the 
interurban in Illinois.  The interurban would at first stop at any flag stop or 
even farmer's lane while the use of Steam and full crews with a number of 
passenger cars (even on locals) was too expensive for the steam roads.  
Electric 
power was cheaper and only had a 2 man crew later even a single operator.  Some 
roads like the Chicago Aurora and Dekalb(west off the Geneva Branch at 
Aurora)used early four wheeled battery  cars until they made enough money(?) to 
electrify.
"History of Mack Rail Motor Cars and Locomotives" lists 
 Model AC  CB&Q #501 bn 60009 built 4/29/22 with McGuire-Cummings body built 
for 
North Dakota             service  leased to Rapid City, Black Hills & Western 
1928 scrapped June 1934

Model AQ  CB&Q #569 bn 161002 built 11/10/28 with Pullman body for service in 
Illinois rn# 9569, 9850     wrecked 4/27/43 and scrapped  (Builder photo on P. 
48)
Locomotive model   30 ton  bn 172001 built as Mack Demo Unit the to CB&Q #100  
rn 8900 and 9100         built 3/20/29  used at Galesburg Tie Plant until 
scrapped 6/13/52  (photo as 100 P. as Demo unit and at         Galesburg)
"Interurbans without Wires" by Edmund Keilty shows  Edwards  built #500 in 
1922, 
502-508 in 24-26 and with Porter #552 in 1925.  EMC did not get started till 
1924 with the Q finally getting cars from this builder in 1927 which of course 
lead to 9900.
This would lead me to believe the 1905 cars were for MOW
Steve in SC




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From: Rupert & Maureen <gamlenz@ihug.co.nz>
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Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 4:05:09 AM
Subject: [CBQ] Gasoline motor car 1905

  
I found the following piece in a 1905 magazine - 

A new gasoline motor car was tried not long ago on the C., B. & Q. and proved 
to 
be a complete success.

It has rendered excellent service on one of the smaller branch lines in 
passenger and mail service.

Was this the first (railway) motor car as opposed to a road vehicle with 
flanged 
wheels?

Anyone able to shed any light on this?

Rupert Gamlen

Auckland NZ

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