I agree Stephen!
I thought I read the trains in Saudia Arabia are in storage there,
what a great gesture it would be for the Government of Saudi Arabia
(or the whomever the owner is) to donate them to a US Rail Museum.
As you say, that makes the 3 cars in the USA that more valuable for
preservation.
Hubert
--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen J. Levine" <sjl@...> wrote:
>
> I was devastated when those trains were sold to Saudi Arabia.
>
> That is why it is so important to get those cars from South
Dakota.
>
> Hubert Hanrahan <domelinerdude@...> wrote:
> Stephen;
>
> I was very interested in hearing how it all came about the trains
> ending up on Kansas City Terminal property.
>
> When I went to work at Kansas City Union Station in the early
> seventies I became friends with 2 elderly gentlemen who were
> refurbishing and re-upholstering the former DZ train set for Mr.
> Barkett.
>
> One day I took a photograph of them working on one of the cars and
> one of the men asked for a copy of the picture. After some
> discussion he offered me a pair of the enamel signs from the
> vestibue steps from one of the cars in exchange for an enlargment
of
> the photograph.
>
> Today I still have the two signs "Watch Your Step" and "Burlington
> Route" from one of the vestibules of the original DZ.
>
> I felt it was a loss for our railroad heritage to see the trains
go
> to Saudi Arabia.
>
> Hubert
>
> --- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen J. Levine" <sjl@> wrote:
> >
> > Hubert
> >
> > Thanks for the correction on Mr. Barkett's name.
> >
> > I was doing the post from memories, including personal
> observations, and I always have difficulty remembering the
> gentleman's name. The information as to how he came to own his DZ
> consist came from an article I read soon after the purchase of the
> consist. I remember the approximate date because I saw the three
> cars under the Valley Highway that he saw. It was in the spring of
> 1969 when I returned for a few days from the University of
Colorado,
> where I was a sophomore, to my parents home in Denver to recover
> from a bad cold.
> >
> > sjl
> >
> >
> > Hubert Hanrahan <domelinerdude@> wrote:
> > Hi Stephen;
> >
> > Just a minor correction, that was Mr. Alex Barkett of Kansas City
> > that bought the pre-war Zephyrs and sold them to Saudi Arabia.
> >
> > As a side note, he later bought from Amtrak: Silver Castle,
Siver
> > River, Silver Garden, a former Amtrak/Chessie Cabin Dome Sleeper
> and
> > a wrecked Amtrak - ex/GN Dome Coach (derailed at Ralston, NE on
> > Amtrak #5), all were sold at an auction by his wife after his
> death.
> >
> > Interesting topic!
> >
> > Hubert
> >
> > --- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen J. Levine" <sjl@> wrote:
> > >
> > > These cars have apparently a very interesting history.
> > >
> > > When the Texas Zephyrs were retired in 1965, they were stored
in
> > Denver on 3 or so tracks, the consists partially uncoupled.
> > Apparently, when one of the sets was sold to a fellow by the
name
> of
> > Barclay, if I recall correctly, he was actually given the rear
> half
> > of the 9906 consist and the front half of the 9907 consist. The
> > fellow had seen 3 of the cars in the spring of 1969, if I
remember
> > correctly, that had been sitting under the I-25 viaduct over
south
> > Broadway in Denver, and when he inquired about them, was offered
a
> > whole 12 car consist, which he purchased.
> > >
> > > Mr. Barclay, after storing his consist in Denver for a few
> > years, eventually sold it and bought the Train of the Gods. Both
> > this train and the aforementioned DZ consist were eventually
sold
> to
> > Aramco's railroad in Saudi Arabia where they apparently still
are
> > located.
> > >
> > > The other set, the rear half of 9907 and the front half of
9906,
> > did not fare so well. It ended up in a scrapyard under the old
> > Speer Blvd. Viaduct and one car was actually scrapped to its
base,
> > although it remained in the consist. The last I saw of the
> > Obs/Parlor Car Silver Streak was its nameplate, sitting behind
the
> > concession counter of the Cherry Creek Twin Theaters in 1976,
> while
> > the movie Silver Streak, with Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor, was
> > showing there. I assumed that, at that point, the car had been
> > completely scrapped, and thus was surprised to see that it and
two
> > of the non-articulated cars in the front of the 9906 consist
> (ahead
> > of the articulated coach-coach-diner) turn up in the Black Hills
> of
> > North Dakota.
> > >
> > > I hope these three cars are restored and end up well-cared-for
> > in a railroad museum somewhere. Unfortunately, as I understand
it,
> > the current owners want an exhorbitant price for them.
> > >
> > > sjl
> > >
> > > cy svobodny <ctsvobodny@> wrote:
> > > They are Q#231 Silver Streak(parlor/lounge/obs.),
> > > C&S#323 Silver Lining(bag/dorm), and C&S#606 Silver
> > > Beam(dinnette/chair). Q#231 also listed as C&S#641.
> > > Complete rosters of all equip. and structures
> > > exhisting is on www.burlingtonroute.com. They were
> > > for sale on e-bay a while back.
> > > --- sw1_9147 <dctrainmaster@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I was recently in Hill City,SD and saw 3 original
> > > > cbq texas zephyr cars( baggage, combo/
> > > > crew sleeper? and observation cars. does anyone know
> > > > what the names of these cars are?
> > > >
> > > > thanks all..
> > > >
> > > > Kelly
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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