Unfortunately (or fortuantely) we no longer have a big presnce in Saudi
Arabia. I wish I'd known about the trains before I went to Kuwait in the
late 90's. I had to transit thru Saudi. The best bet is maybe trhu some
oil companies that employ Americans in the country.
Rick
>From: cy svobodny <ctsvobodny@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
>To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: texas zephyr
>Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 19:23:30 -0800 (PST)
>
>With all our military personel over there, Are any of
>them "Q" or railfans or friendly enough to check out
>the DZ in Saudi. Pictures would be great, but a run
>down of current condition and status would be ok.
>When were they last used and can we get them back
>home. CY
>--- sw1_9147 <dctrainmaster@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I am recreating the train in HO scale for my
> > collection. I found a suitable dinner car, and
> > am looking for the rest in hobby stores here in the
> > state. this should keep me busy for a
> > while.
> > thanks again gang.
> >
> > kelly
> >
> >
> > --- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen J. Levine"
> > <sjl@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I was devastated when those trains were sold to
> > Saudi Arabia.
> > >
> > > That is why it is so important to get those cars
> > from South Dakota.
> > >
> > > Hubert Hanrahan <domelinerdude@...> wrote:
> > > Stephen;
> > >
> > > I was very interested in hearing how it all came
> > about the trains
> > > ending up on Kansas City Terminal property.
> > >
> > > When I went to work at Kansas City Union Station
> > in the early
> > > seventies I became friends with 2 elderly
> > gentlemen who were
> > > refurbishing and re-upholstering the former DZ
> > train set for Mr.
> > > Barkett.
> > >
> > > One day I took a photograph of them working on one
> > of the cars and
> > > one of the men asked for a copy of the picture.
> > After some
> > > discussion he offered me a pair of the enamel
> > signs from the
> > > vestibue steps from one of the cars in exchange
> > for an enlargment of
> > > the photograph.
> > >
> > > Today I still have the two signs "Watch Your Step"
> > and "Burlington
> > > Route" from one of the vestibules of the original
> > DZ.
> > >
> > > I felt it was a loss for our railroad heritage to
> > see the trains go
> > > to Saudi Arabia.
> > >
> > > Hubert
> > >
> > > --- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen J. Levine"
> > <sjl@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hubert
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the correction on Mr. Barkett's name.
> > > >
> > > > I was doing the post from memories, including
> > personal
> > > observations, and I always have difficulty
> > remembering the
> > > gentleman's name. The information as to how he
> > came to own his DZ
> > > consist came from an article I read soon after the
> > purchase of the
> > > consist. I remember the approximate date because I
> > saw the three
> > > cars under the Valley Highway that he saw. It was
> > in the spring of
> > > 1969 when I returned for a few days from the
> > University of Colorado,
> > > where I was a sophomore, to my parents home in
> > Denver to recover
> > > from a bad cold.
> > > >
> > > > sjl
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hubert Hanrahan <domelinerdude@> wrote:
> > > > Hi Stephen;
> > > >
> > > > Just a minor correction, that was Mr. Alex
> > Barkett of Kansas City
> > > > that bought the pre-war Zephyrs and sold them to
> > Saudi Arabia.
> > > >
> > > > As a side note, he later bought from Amtrak:
> > Silver Castle, Siver
> > > > River, Silver Garden, a former Amtrak/Chessie
> > Cabin Dome Sleeper
> > > and
> > > > a wrecked Amtrak - ex/GN Dome Coach (derailed at
> > Ralston, NE on
> > > > Amtrak #5), all were sold at an auction by his
> > wife after his
> > > death.
> > > >
> > > > Interesting topic!
> > > >
> > > > Hubert
> > > >
> > > > --- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen J. Levine"
> > <sjl@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > These cars have apparently a very interesting
> > history.
> > > > >
> > > > > When the Texas Zephyrs were retired in 1965,
> > they were stored in
> > > > Denver on 3 or so tracks, the consists partially
> > uncoupled.
> > > > Apparently, when one of the sets was sold to a
> > fellow by the name
> > > of
> > > > Barclay, if I recall correctly, he was actually
> > given the rear
> > > half
> > > > of the 9906 consist and the front half of the
> > 9907 consist. The
> > > > fellow had seen 3 of the cars in the spring of
> > 1969, if I remember
> > > > correctly, that had been sitting under the I-25
> > viaduct over south
> > > > Broadway in Denver, and when he inquired about
> > them, was offered a
> > > > whole 12 car consist, which he purchased.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mr. Barclay, after storing his consist in
> > Denver for a few
> > > > years, eventually sold it and bought the Train
> > of the Gods. Both
> > > > this train and the aforementioned DZ consist
> > were eventually sold
> > > to
> > > > Aramco's railroad in Saudi Arabia where they
> > apparently still are
> > > > located.
> > > > >
> > > > > The other set, the rear half of 9907 and the
> > front half of 9906,
> > > > did not fare so well. It ended up in a scrapyard
> > under the old
> > > > Speer Blvd. Viaduct and one car was actually
> > scrapped to its base,
> > > > although it remained in the consist. The last I
> > saw of the
> > > > Obs/Parlor Car Silver Streak was its nameplate,
> > sitting behind the
> > > > concession counter of the Cherry Creek Twin
> > Theaters in 1976,
> > > while
> > > > the movie Silver Streak, with Gene Wilder and
> > Richard Pryor, was
> > > > showing there. I assumed that, at that point,
> > the car had been
> > > > completely scrapped, and thus was surprised to
> > see that it and two
> > > > of the non-articulated cars in the front of the
> > 9906 consist
> > > (ahead
> > > > of the articulated coach-coach-diner) turn up in
> > the Black Hills
> > > of
> > > > North Dakota.
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope these three cars are restored and end
> > up well-cared-for
> > > > in a railroad museum somewhere. Unfortunately,
> > as I understand it,
> > > > the current owners want an exhorbitant price for
> > them.
> > > > >
> > > > > sjl
> > > > >
> > > > > cy svobodny <ctsvobodny@> wrote:
> > > > > They are Q#231 Silver
> > Streak(parlor/lounge/obs.),
> > > > > C&S#323 Silver Lining(bag/dorm), and C&S#606
> > Silver
> > > > > Beam(dinnette/chair). Q#231 also listed as
> > C&S#641.
> > > > > Complete rosters of all equip. and structures
> > > > > exhisting is on www.burlingtonroute.com. They
> > were
> > > > > for sale on e-bay a while back.
> > > > > --- sw1_9147 <dctrainmaster@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I was recently in Hill City,SD and saw 3
> > original
> > > > > > cbq texas zephyr cars( baggage, combo/
> > > > > > crew sleeper? and observation cars. does
> > anyone know
> > > > > > what the names of these cars are?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanks all..
> > > > > >
> >
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