With all our military personel over there, Are any of
them "Q" or railfans or friendly enough to check out
the DZ in Saudi. Pictures would be great, but a run
down of current condition and status would be ok.
When were they last used and can we get them back
home. CY
--- sw1_9147 <dctrainmaster@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I am recreating the train in HO scale for my
> collection. I found a suitable dinner car, and
> am looking for the rest in hobby stores here in the
> state. this should keep me busy for a
> while.
> thanks again gang.
>
> kelly
>
>
> --- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen J. Levine"
> <sjl@...> wrote:
> >
> > I was devastated when those trains were sold to
> Saudi Arabia.
> >
> > That is why it is so important to get those cars
> from South Dakota.
> >
> > Hubert Hanrahan <domelinerdude@...> wrote:
> > Stephen;
> >
> > I was very interested in hearing how it all came
> about the trains
> > ending up on Kansas City Terminal property.
> >
> > When I went to work at Kansas City Union Station
> in the early
> > seventies I became friends with 2 elderly
> gentlemen who were
> > refurbishing and re-upholstering the former DZ
> train set for Mr.
> > Barkett.
> >
> > One day I took a photograph of them working on one
> of the cars and
> > one of the men asked for a copy of the picture.
> After some
> > discussion he offered me a pair of the enamel
> signs from the
> > vestibue steps from one of the cars in exchange
> for an enlargment of
> > the photograph.
> >
> > Today I still have the two signs "Watch Your Step"
> and "Burlington
> > Route" from one of the vestibules of the original
> DZ.
> >
> > I felt it was a loss for our railroad heritage to
> see the trains go
> > to Saudi Arabia.
> >
> > Hubert
> >
> > --- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen J. Levine"
> <sjl@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hubert
> > >
> > > Thanks for the correction on Mr. Barkett's name.
> > >
> > > I was doing the post from memories, including
> personal
> > observations, and I always have difficulty
> remembering the
> > gentleman's name. The information as to how he
> came to own his DZ
> > consist came from an article I read soon after the
> purchase of the
> > consist. I remember the approximate date because I
> saw the three
> > cars under the Valley Highway that he saw. It was
> in the spring of
> > 1969 when I returned for a few days from the
> University of Colorado,
> > where I was a sophomore, to my parents home in
> Denver to recover
> > from a bad cold.
> > >
> > > sjl
> > >
> > >
> > > Hubert Hanrahan <domelinerdude@> wrote:
> > > Hi Stephen;
> > >
> > > Just a minor correction, that was Mr. Alex
> Barkett of Kansas City
> > > that bought the pre-war Zephyrs and sold them to
> Saudi Arabia.
> > >
> > > As a side note, he later bought from Amtrak:
> Silver Castle, Siver
> > > River, Silver Garden, a former Amtrak/Chessie
> Cabin Dome Sleeper
> > and
> > > a wrecked Amtrak - ex/GN Dome Coach (derailed at
> Ralston, NE on
> > > Amtrak #5), all were sold at an auction by his
> wife after his
> > death.
> > >
> > > Interesting topic!
> > >
> > > Hubert
> > >
> > > --- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen J. Levine"
> <sjl@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > These cars have apparently a very interesting
> history.
> > > >
> > > > When the Texas Zephyrs were retired in 1965,
> they were stored in
> > > Denver on 3 or so tracks, the consists partially
> uncoupled.
> > > Apparently, when one of the sets was sold to a
> fellow by the name
> > of
> > > Barclay, if I recall correctly, he was actually
> given the rear
> > half
> > > of the 9906 consist and the front half of the
> 9907 consist. The
> > > fellow had seen 3 of the cars in the spring of
> 1969, if I remember
> > > correctly, that had been sitting under the I-25
> viaduct over south
> > > Broadway in Denver, and when he inquired about
> them, was offered a
> > > whole 12 car consist, which he purchased.
> > > >
> > > > Mr. Barclay, after storing his consist in
> Denver for a few
> > > years, eventually sold it and bought the Train
> of the Gods. Both
> > > this train and the aforementioned DZ consist
> were eventually sold
> > to
> > > Aramco's railroad in Saudi Arabia where they
> apparently still are
> > > located.
> > > >
> > > > The other set, the rear half of 9907 and the
> front half of 9906,
> > > did not fare so well. It ended up in a scrapyard
> under the old
> > > Speer Blvd. Viaduct and one car was actually
> scrapped to its base,
> > > although it remained in the consist. The last I
> saw of the
> > > Obs/Parlor Car Silver Streak was its nameplate,
> sitting behind the
> > > concession counter of the Cherry Creek Twin
> Theaters in 1976,
> > while
> > > the movie Silver Streak, with Gene Wilder and
> Richard Pryor, was
> > > showing there. I assumed that, at that point,
> the car had been
> > > completely scrapped, and thus was surprised to
> see that it and two
> > > of the non-articulated cars in the front of the
> 9906 consist
> > (ahead
> > > of the articulated coach-coach-diner) turn up in
> the Black Hills
> > of
> > > North Dakota.
> > > >
> > > > I hope these three cars are restored and end
> up well-cared-for
> > > in a railroad museum somewhere. Unfortunately,
> as I understand it,
> > > the current owners want an exhorbitant price for
> them.
> > > >
> > > > sjl
> > > >
> > > > cy svobodny <ctsvobodny@> wrote:
> > > > They are Q#231 Silver
> Streak(parlor/lounge/obs.),
> > > > C&S#323 Silver Lining(bag/dorm), and C&S#606
> Silver
> > > > Beam(dinnette/chair). Q#231 also listed as
> C&S#641.
> > > > Complete rosters of all equip. and structures
> > > > exhisting is on www.burlingtonroute.com. They
> were
> > > > for sale on e-bay a while back.
> > > > --- sw1_9147 <dctrainmaster@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I was recently in Hill City,SD and saw 3
> original
> > > > > cbq texas zephyr cars( baggage, combo/
> > > > > crew sleeper? and observation cars. does
> anyone know
> > > > > what the names of these cars are?
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks all..
> > > > >
>
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