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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: texas zephyr
From: "Stephen J. Levine" <sjl@prodigy.net>
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 20:52:49 -0800 (PST)
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I was devastated when those trains were sold to Saudi Arabia.
   
  That is why it is so important to get those cars from South Dakota.

Hubert Hanrahan <domelinerdude@yahoo.com> wrote:
          Stephen;

I was very interested in hearing how it all came about the trains 
ending up on Kansas City Terminal property. 

When I went to work at Kansas City Union Station in the early 
seventies I became friends with 2 elderly gentlemen who were 
refurbishing and re-upholstering the former DZ train set for Mr. 
Barkett. 

One day I took a photograph of them working on one of the cars and 
one of the men asked for a copy of the picture. After some 
discussion he offered me a pair of the enamel signs from the 
vestibue steps from one of the cars in exchange for an enlargment of 
the photograph.

Today I still have the two signs "Watch Your Step" and "Burlington 
Route" from one of the vestibules of the original DZ.

I felt it was a loss for our railroad heritage to see the trains go 
to Saudi Arabia.

Hubert 

--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen J. Levine" <sjl@...> wrote:
>
> Hubert
> 
> Thanks for the correction on Mr. Barkett's name.
> 
> I was doing the post from memories, including personal 
observations, and I always have difficulty remembering the 
gentleman's name. The information as to how he came to own his DZ 
consist came from an article I read soon after the purchase of the 
consist. I remember the approximate date because I saw the three 
cars under the Valley Highway that he saw. It was in the spring of 
1969 when I returned for a few days from the University of Colorado, 
where I was a sophomore, to my parents home in Denver to recover 
from a bad cold.
> 
> sjl
> 
> 
> Hubert Hanrahan <domelinerdude@...> wrote:
> Hi Stephen;
> 
> Just a minor correction, that was Mr. Alex Barkett of Kansas City
> that bought the pre-war Zephyrs and sold them to Saudi Arabia.
> 
> As a side note, he later bought from Amtrak: Silver Castle, Siver 
> River, Silver Garden, a former Amtrak/Chessie Cabin Dome Sleeper 
and 
> a wrecked Amtrak - ex/GN Dome Coach (derailed at Ralston, NE on 
> Amtrak #5), all were sold at an auction by his wife after his 
death.
> 
> Interesting topic!
> 
> Hubert 
> 
> --- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen J. Levine" <sjl@> wrote:
> >
> > These cars have apparently a very interesting history.
> > 
> > When the Texas Zephyrs were retired in 1965, they were stored in 
> Denver on 3 or so tracks, the consists partially uncoupled. 
> Apparently, when one of the sets was sold to a fellow by the name 
of 
> Barclay, if I recall correctly, he was actually given the rear 
half 
> of the 9906 consist and the front half of the 9907 consist. The 
> fellow had seen 3 of the cars in the spring of 1969, if I remember 
> correctly, that had been sitting under the I-25 viaduct over south 
> Broadway in Denver, and when he inquired about them, was offered a 
> whole 12 car consist, which he purchased.
> > 
> > Mr. Barclay, after storing his consist in Denver for a few 
> years, eventually sold it and bought the Train of the Gods. Both 
> this train and the aforementioned DZ consist were eventually sold 
to 
> Aramco's railroad in Saudi Arabia where they apparently still are 
> located.
> > 
> > The other set, the rear half of 9907 and the front half of 9906, 
> did not fare so well. It ended up in a scrapyard under the old 
> Speer Blvd. Viaduct and one car was actually scrapped to its base, 
> although it remained in the consist. The last I saw of the 
> Obs/Parlor Car Silver Streak was its nameplate, sitting behind the 
> concession counter of the Cherry Creek Twin Theaters in 1976, 
while 
> the movie Silver Streak, with Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor, was 
> showing there. I assumed that, at that point, the car had been 
> completely scrapped, and thus was surprised to see that it and two 
> of the non-articulated cars in the front of the 9906 consist 
(ahead 
> of the articulated coach-coach-diner) turn up in the Black Hills 
of 
> North Dakota.
> > 
> > I hope these three cars are restored and end up well-cared-for 
> in a railroad museum somewhere. Unfortunately, as I understand it, 
> the current owners want an exhorbitant price for them.
> > 
> > sjl
> > 
> > cy svobodny <ctsvobodny@> wrote:
> > They are Q#231 Silver Streak(parlor/lounge/obs.),
> > C&S#323 Silver Lining(bag/dorm), and C&S#606 Silver
> > Beam(dinnette/chair). Q#231 also listed as C&S#641.
> > Complete rosters of all equip. and structures
> > exhisting is on www.burlingtonroute.com. They were
> > for sale on e-bay a while back. 
> > --- sw1_9147 <dctrainmaster@> wrote:
> > 
> > > I was recently in Hill City,SD and saw 3 original
> > > cbq texas zephyr cars( baggage, combo/
> > > crew sleeper? and observation cars. does anyone know
> > > what the names of these cars are?
> > > 
> > > thanks all..
> > > 
> > > Kelly
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
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