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[CBQ] Re: Fw: Foreign Sleepers CZ

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Subject: [CBQ] Re: Fw: Foreign Sleepers CZ
From: "Bryan Howell" <tubaman21@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:44:18 -0000
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Is this car 500 in Iowa or with the Mark Twain Zephyr?  I took some
pictures of the MTZ at Relco in Minooka, IL 3 weeks ago.  Sure is sad
to see it there languishing in the weeds.

Bryan J. Howell
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--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, Bob Webber <no17@...> wrote:
>
> The "one PRR car" is the 10-6 SILVER RAPIDS - but that was bought as 
> part of the original consortium purchase, and until the end of the 
> transcon deal (in 57-58) it should not be considered a foreign 
> car.  There were plenty of other PRR cars that were on the CZ other 
> than SILVER RAPIDS, and SILVER RAPIDS itself showed up as a foreign 
> car after the transcon deal stopped (with the black roof and 
> PENNSYLVANIA on the train board name - to better fit in with the 
> Florida service) (which is why Broadway Ltd shipped it that way in 
> the second release).   Most often seen were the 4-4-2s but other cars 
> were seen as well, including other cars in the PRR 10-6 RAPIDS 
> series.   Those were typically in the tuscan red color scheme 
> though.  There are a lot of photos of those cars in the train, and I 
> rode in at least two CZs with PRR cars in the consist.
> 
> There are well over 20 RTR cars available to run as foreign cars in 
> the HO CZ, and over 3 times that if you want to build kits / sides cars.
> 
> BTW, one of the cars from the Con-Cor extras for the PZ is still 
> around on the Mark Twain Zephyr sitting around in Iowa.  I think it 
> is car 500, but not sure - it had been on the PZ up until the PZ was 
> taken for display, then removed.  But it *is* still around.    As is 
> all the glass and interior for the MTZ.  A pity a reliable buyer 
> can't be found for it.
> 
> At 02:23 AM 11/3/2006, Eddie Stavleu wrote:
> >And ONE  PRR car of some sort from what I have read,
> >
> >Eddie.
> >
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Gordon Smith
> >   To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
> >   Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 8:21 PM
> >   Subject: Re: [CBQ] Fw: Foreign Sleepers CZ
> >
> >
> >   Don't forget SP. There were a lot of theirs too.
> >
> >   Gordon
> >
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: <Aeolus3@...>
> >   To: <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
> >   Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:07 AM
> >   Subject: Re: [CBQ] Fw: Foreign Sleepers CZ
> >
> >   > Silver Rapids was a CZ car..... part of the CZ Pool. Foreign 
> > Sleepers I've
> >   > seen shots of in the CZ consist, NYC, PRR, IC, SP, UP, C&O, GN
(although
> >   > not
> >   > enough of the train to see if it was a GN Pullman in the CZ or
a CZ 10-6
> >   > in a GN
> >   > consist), and ACL.
> >   >
> >   > Other than CN or CP the only foreign Pullmans I wouldn't expect 
> > to find in
> >   > a
> >   > CZ consist would be Amtrak! :-)
> >   >
> >   > The CZ in one instants in 1959, went west of Plano IL with a
Suburban
> >   > power
> >   > car and 3 Gallery cars. Reason being the original west bound
CZ that day
> >   > hit a
> >   > 1957 Ford Convertible at Little Rock Road on the west side of 
> > Plano. They
> >   > got
> >   > 17 stopped about a mile west of that location just east of
Sandy Bluff
> >   > Road
> >   > grade crossing which is on the east side of Sandwich IL, well
today both
> >   > roads
> >   > are part of Plano and Sandwich back then they were country 
> > roads crossing
> >   > the
> >   > Q, right along US Route 34. It appears the make up CZ consist, 
> > the Q took
> >   > that
> >   > day's 18 from the dinning car back to the observation.
> >   >
> >   > I told Dave Lotz when his layout is up and running down there
in the
> >   > little
> >   > ole south, I'm going to run the "make up" CZ. The good thing
is I won't
> >   > have
> >   > numbers of flat wheels since his layout's east end is Galesburg!
> >   >
> >   > Loren Johnson
> >   >
> >   >
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> >
> >
> 
> Bob Webber
>





 
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