Sorry, thought they had moved the MTZ - it is with the MTZ
At 11:44 AM 11/3/2006, Bryan Howell wrote:
>Is this car 500 in Iowa or with the Mark Twain Zephyr? I took some
>pictures of the MTZ at Relco in Minooka, IL 3 weeks ago. Sure is sad
>to see it there languishing in the weeds.
>
>Bryan J. Howell
>tubaman21@yahoo.com
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>--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, Bob Webber <no17@...> wrote:
> >
> > The "one PRR car" is the 10-6 SILVER RAPIDS - but that was bought as
> > part of the original consortium purchase, and until the end of the
> > transcon deal (in 57-58) it should not be considered a foreign
> > car. There were plenty of other PRR cars that were on the CZ other
> > than SILVER RAPIDS, and SILVER RAPIDS itself showed up as a foreign
> > car after the transcon deal stopped (with the black roof and
> > PENNSYLVANIA on the train board name - to better fit in with the
> > Florida service) (which is why Broadway Ltd shipped it that way in
> > the second release). Most often seen were the 4-4-2s but other cars
> > were seen as well, including other cars in the PRR 10-6 RAPIDS
> > series. Those were typically in the tuscan red color scheme
> > though. There are a lot of photos of those cars in the train, and I
> > rode in at least two CZs with PRR cars in the consist.
> >
> > There are well over 20 RTR cars available to run as foreign cars in
> > the HO CZ, and over 3 times that if you want to build kits / sides cars.
> >
> > BTW, one of the cars from the Con-Cor extras for the PZ is still
> > around on the Mark Twain Zephyr sitting around in Iowa. I think it
> > is car 500, but not sure - it had been on the PZ up until the PZ was
> > taken for display, then removed. But it *is* still around. As is
> > all the glass and interior for the MTZ. A pity a reliable buyer
> > can't be found for it.
> >
> > At 02:23 AM 11/3/2006, Eddie Stavleu wrote:
> > >And ONE PRR car of some sort from what I have read,
> > >
> > >Eddie.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Gordon Smith
> > > To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 8:21 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [CBQ] Fw: Foreign Sleepers CZ
> > >
> > >
> > > Don't forget SP. There were a lot of theirs too.
> > >
> > > Gordon
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <Aeolus3@...>
> > > To: <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:07 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [CBQ] Fw: Foreign Sleepers CZ
> > >
> > > > Silver Rapids was a CZ car..... part of the CZ Pool. Foreign
> > > Sleepers I've
> > > > seen shots of in the CZ consist, NYC, PRR, IC, SP, UP, C&O, GN
>(although
> > > > not
> > > > enough of the train to see if it was a GN Pullman in the CZ or
>a CZ 10-6
> > > > in a GN
> > > > consist), and ACL.
> > > >
> > > > Other than CN or CP the only foreign Pullmans I wouldn't expect
> > > to find in
> > > > a
> > > > CZ consist would be Amtrak! :-)
> > > >
> > > > The CZ in one instants in 1959, went west of Plano IL with a
>Suburban
> > > > power
> > > > car and 3 Gallery cars. Reason being the original west bound
>CZ that day
> > > > hit a
> > > > 1957 Ford Convertible at Little Rock Road on the west side of
> > > Plano. They
> > > > got
> > > > 17 stopped about a mile west of that location just east of
>Sandy Bluff
> > > > Road
> > > > grade crossing which is on the east side of Sandwich IL, well
>today both
> > > > roads
> > > > are part of Plano and Sandwich back then they were country
> > > roads crossing
> > > > the
> > > > Q, right along US Route 34. It appears the make up CZ consist,
> > > the Q took
> > > > that
> > > > day's 18 from the dinning car back to the observation.
> > > >
> > > > I told Dave Lotz when his layout is up and running down there
>in the
> > > > little
> > > > ole south, I'm going to run the "make up" CZ. The good thing
>is I won't
> > > > have
> > > > numbers of flat wheels since his layout's east end is Galesburg!
> > > >
> > > > Loren Johnson
> > > >
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