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1. [CBQ] Chicago Union Station (score: 1)
Author: John Ziola <johnsclubs@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:12:24 -0800 (PST)
Group I need some help, I plan on modeling Chg.Union Sta. (during the CZ period) and need a diagram of track layout for Station as well as Passenger car yard. Also same for the yard at Clyde. Was the
/archives/BRHSLIST/2006-11/msg00085.html (10,524 bytes)

2. Re: [CBQ] Re: Chicago Union Station (score: 1)
Author: John Ziola <johnsclubs@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:57:33 -0800 (PST)
Ed, Thanks for the web site, appreciate the help from both you and Rupert. Was the yard connected to the main yard or was it as I remember, further west? Is this inormation (with track diagrams) avai
/archives/BRHSLIST/2006-11/msg00092.html (12,017 bytes)

3. Re: [CBQ] Chicago Union Station (score: 1)
Author: John Ziola <johnsclubs@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:52:26 -0800 (PST)
Thanks for the recommendation Rupert, will look for it. John Re. the CUS part of the question, I suggest a copy of Ed DeRouin's "Chicago Union Station - A look at its history and operations before Am
/archives/BRHSLIST/2006-11/msg00093.html (11,766 bytes)

4. Re: [CBQ] Re:Chicago Union Station (score: 1)
Author: John Ziola <johnsclubs@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:26:42 -0800 (PST)
Bill, I model in N scale and know that I'll have to really compress and not model yards or Union Station in their entirety but do want to capture the likeness of the prototype as much as I can. I pla
/archives/BRHSLIST/2006-11/msg00094.html (12,613 bytes)

5. Re: [CBQ] Re: Chicago Union Station (score: 1)
Author: John Ziola <johnsclubs@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:14:56 -0800 (PST)
Hi Ed, Went to your web site, all that appeared was a logo? Let me know how to access. Thanks, John Thank you for the plug! Since I monitor this list in a daily digest, I do not always have the oppor
/archives/BRHSLIST/2006-11/msg00096.html (12,026 bytes)

6. Re: [CBQ] Re: Chicago Union Station (score: 1)
Author: John Ziola <johnsclubs@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:31:52 -0800 (PST)
More great ideas, Thanks so much to you PAL and the others. John diagram of track layout for Station as well as Passenger car yard. of Clyde or was it separate? Check out Michael J. Spoor's "CB&Q in
/archives/BRHSLIST/2006-11/msg00098.html (11,605 bytes)

7. Re: [CBQ] Re: Chicago Union Station (score: 1)
Author: John Ziola <johnsclubs@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:20:59 -0800 (PST)
Do have the Kalmbach book and you're right it has some valuable information as do most of their books Another good suggestion, have looked at some of these trains, as well as Dearborn Sta. which I'll
/archives/BRHSLIST/2006-11/msg00100.html (13,193 bytes)

8. Re: [CBQ] Re: Chicago Union Station (score: 1)
Author: John Ziola <johnsclubs@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:48:07 -0800 (PST)
Cy, Thanks for the help, I feel as if I attended a seminar, so much great information at the fingertips of so many of folks. It's great. John cy svobodny <ctsvobodny@yahoo.com> wrote: CUS was departu
/archives/BRHSLIST/2006-11/msg00102.html (15,196 bytes)

9. Re: [CBQ] Re: Chicago Union Station (score: 1)
Author: John Ziola <johnsclubs@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:01:56 -0800 (PST)
Another great recommendation. Thanks Robert, John You might try "Passenger Terminals and Trains", By John A. Droege, Kalmbach Publishing. First published 1916. I don't have the book at hand, but it h
/archives/BRHSLIST/2006-11/msg00109.html (11,707 bytes)

10. Re: [CBQ] Re: Chicago Union Station (score: 1)
Author: John Ziola <johnsclubs@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:34:16 -0800 (PST)
Thanks for the suggestion, I do have a number of commuter cars (stainless steel) double deck) and am looking for the older (heavyweights?) which were still in service when I first began commuting. I
/archives/BRHSLIST/2006-11/msg00110.html (14,008 bytes)

11. Re: [CBQ] Re:Chicago Union Station (score: 1)
Author: John Ziola <johnsclubs@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:48:40 -0800 (PST)
SJH, Appreciate the information, next project was to be Aurora/Eola, love to do Galesburg but I'd need 2 more basements to model all that I want to include (I may anyway or have to go to a second lev
/archives/BRHSLIST/2006-11/msg00112.html (13,362 bytes)

12. Re: [CBQ] Re: Chicago Union Station (score: 1)
Author: John Ziola <johnsclubs@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:15:27 -0800 (PST)
Thanks Stephen, I couldn't remember if they were E's or F's. John That is why every time I look at those 4 ex-BN E9's in Nashville, I realize I am looking at the locomotives that would pilot my trips
/archives/BRHSLIST/2006-11/msg00116.html (14,703 bytes)

13. Re: [CBQ] Re: Chicago Union Station (score: 1)
Author: John Ziola <johnsclubs@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:06:11 -0800 (PST)
Thanks Jim, Do you know when they were replaced by the Bi-Levels? I seem to remember sometime in the 50's, wonder how close they were to heavyweight passenger cars? Are these available in N scale? Jo
/archives/BRHSLIST/2006-11/msg00118.html (15,764 bytes)

14. Re: [CBQ] Re: Chicago Union Station (score: 1)
Author: John Ziola <johnsclubs@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:02:21 -0800 (PST)
Jim, I remember when the Bi-Levels were introduced the older (heavyweights) were the "smokers". Can't believe I sat in those, you could cut the smoke and of course the odor lingered forever, worse th
/archives/BRHSLIST/2006-11/msg00121.html (18,120 bytes)

15. Re: [CBQ] Re: Chicago Union Station (score: 1)
Author: John Ziola <johnsclubs@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:43:45 -0800 (PST)
sjh, I am amazed at all the helpful information I received from so many of you, much appreciated. Thanks all, John sholding@sbcglobal.net wrote: And the car washer west of Union Ave. The trains pulle
/archives/BRHSLIST/2006-11/msg00124.html (14,154 bytes)

16. Re: [CBQ] Re: Chicago Union Station (score: 1)
Author: John Ziola <johnsclubs@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:57:28 -0800 (PST)
Cy, You must have a library of books, slides etc like many of the other members do. Could a print be made from the slides? John cy svobodny <ctsvobodny@yahoo.com> wrote: I recently obtained slides of
/archives/BRHSLIST/2006-11/msg00125.html (15,625 bytes)

17. Re: [CBQ] Re: Chicago Union Station (score: 1)
Author: John Ziola <johnsclubs@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:38:55 -0800 (PST)
Thanks Cy for this recommendation. John __________________________________________________________ Sponsored Link Online degrees - find the right program to advance your career. Www.nextag.com [Non-t
/archives/BRHSLIST/2006-11/msg00130.html (17,371 bytes)

18. Re: [CBQ] Re: Chicago Union Station (score: 1)
Author: John Ziola <johnsclubs@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:41:20 -0800 (PST)
Any chance of me contacting that person to see if they can do it? John cy svobodny <ctsvobodny@yahoo.com> wrote: I don't have that capacity. Sorry. I think I know sombody who does. During the last 5
/archives/BRHSLIST/2006-11/msg00131.html (17,537 bytes)

19. Re: [CBQ] Re: Chicago Union Station (score: 1)
Author: John Ziola <johnsclubs@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 18:36:54 -0800 (PST)
Bill, I continue to be amazed at the vast amount of information the members of the forum have, these being a prime example. You as many others are certainly students of the Q. Don't know where you gu
/archives/BRHSLIST/2006-11/msg00139.html (21,067 bytes)

20. Re: [CBQ] Re: Chicago Union Station (score: 1)
Author: John Ziola <johnsclubs@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:48:48 -0800 (PST)
Hi Keith, I reviewed all the valuable replies I got and none mentioned the color of the seats, If memory serves me and it's not that good a servant nowadays, the seats were a dark green or possibly d
/archives/BRHSLIST/2006-11/msg00142.html (21,967 bytes)


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