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Leo:
I think you're probably right. And if the Murray Yard servicing facility needed a new sand car, they were probably authorized to take an old single-sheathed boxcar and put it in sand service, reporting which car they were using and being given a company service
number to stencil on the car. But they had no orange paint to repaint the car, and mineral red had been replaced by Chinese red, so they sprayed it Chinese red. I'll always remember June 1959 when O-5-B 5626 was repainted in preparation for pulling the Illini
Railroad Club "Journey to Yesterday" train from Lincoln to Denver and for use on several trips out of Denver, the Lincoln roundhouse painters who did the work knew mineral red had just been superseded by Chinese red, so 5626 got a Chinese red cab roof. Fortunately,
it was not readily visible from the ground. Two views attached.
Hol
From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> on behalf of Leo Phillipp via groups.io <qutlx1=aol.com@groups.io>
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Rare Chinese red box car
For what it’s worth my guess is the car is in company sand service as it is directly across form the sand tower.
Yes company service sand came in old box cars. That I know from first hand experience.
Leo Phillipp
On Feb 22, 2021, at 9:59 AM, Louis Zadnichek via groups.io <LZadnichek=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
February 22, 2021
Group - I've examined the image and I agree with Hol for all the reasons he gives. Wonder if this MOW car kept its Chinese red paint scheme or was quietly repainted at
a later date back into orange? - Louis
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL
In a message dated 2/22/2021 9:55:03 AM Central Standard Time, holpennywagner@msn.com writes:
Rupert:
I think the top "plate" on the car door is the tack board, while the one below it is the herald. See the attached image of XM-28 25776. I'm willing to accept that it is probably a company service car, as it has no reporting marks or number on the end, but
I do not believe it is Omaha orange; it's color clearly matches the two Chinese red Geeps and the Chinese red boxcars out in the yard also in the photo, and there is something -- probably a shed of some type -- in Omaha orange just to the right of the fuel
tank. Even a freshly painted Omaha orange car would not appear as red as this car does.
Hol
From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> on behalf of Rupert Gamlen <gamlenz@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 9:02 PM
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Subject: [CBQ] Rare Chinese red box car
Hol Wagner spotted an interesting feature in a photo offered for sale on eBay at
BURLINGTON
ROUTE CB&Q 5632 Gold 1st time offer Dawn Yd RAILROAD TRAIN Photograph | eBay
The photo is taken at
the Dawn Yard in North Kansas City in 1965 and shows 5632 painted gold to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the completion of Kansas City's Union Station. Alongside it, and flanked on the other
side by an F-unit, is a Chinese red boxcar. What is unusual is that this is a single sheathed box car, presumed to be a CB&Q car and possibly an XM-27 or XM-28. Neither of us can remember seeing a single sheathed box car painted Chinese red.
There appears to be two “plates” affixed to the door of the box car. The top one looks about right for the Burlington Route herald while the lower one is deeper. Something relating to the Union Station
celebrations? If this had been Havelock in 1957 or 1958, one could guess that the painting was an experiment in connection with the introduction of Chinese red.
Can anyone shed any light on this unusual scene? Does any recall any other Chinese red box cars of this type or other companies using a similar colour on freight cars in this time frame?
Hol has contacted the seller but he is unable to assist further as he was not the photographer and the quality of the photo was not very good.
Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ
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CB&Q 5626, Denver, Colo., 6-10-1959, Jim Ozment photo.jpg
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CB&Q 5626, Howard Fogg Excursion, Churches Lake, Colo., 6-10-1959, R.R. Wallin photo.jpg
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