Re: [CBQ] Rare Chinese red box car

["Dave Lotz" <Dave_Lotz@bellsouth.net>]

It’s possible that this was an unexpected anomaly as was the FW&D switcher…I agree it is Chinese Red.

 

From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> On Behalf Of Leo Phillipp via groups.io
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 11:10 AM
To: CBQ@groups.io
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Rare Chinese red box car

 

For what it’s worth my guess is the car is in company sand service as it is directly across form the sand tower. 

 

Yes company service sand came in old box cars. That I know from first hand experience.

 

Leo Phillipp

On Feb 22, 2021, at 9:59 AM, Louis Zadnichek via groups.io <LZadnichek=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:



February 22, 2021

 

Group - I've examined the image and I agree with Hol for all the reasons he gives. Wonder if this MOW car kept its Chinese red paint scheme or was quietly repainted at a later date back into orange? - Louis

 

Louis Zadnichek II

Fairhope, AL

 

In a message dated 2/22/2021 9:55:03 AM Central Standard Time, holpennywagner@msn.com writes:

 

Rupert:

 

I think the top "plate" on the car door is the tack board, while the one below it is the herald.  See the attached image of XM-28 25776.  I'm willing to accept that it is probably a company service car, as it has no reporting marks or number on the end, but I do not believe it is Omaha orange; it's color clearly matches the two Chinese red Geeps and the Chinese red boxcars out in the yard also in the photo, and there is something -- probably a shed of some type -- in Omaha orange just to the right of the fuel tank.  Even a freshly painted Omaha orange car would not appear as red as this car does.

 

Hol

 

 

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From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> on behalf of Rupert Gamlen <gamlenz@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 9:02 PM
To: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io>
Subject: [CBQ] Rare Chinese red box car

 

Hol Wagner spotted an interesting feature in a photo offered for sale on eBay at BURLINGTON ROUTE CB&Q 5632 Gold 1st time offer Dawn Yd RAILROAD TRAIN Photograph | eBay

The photo is taken at the Dawn Yard in North Kansas City in 1965 and shows 5632 painted gold to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the completion of Kansas City's Union Station. Alongside it, and flanked on the other side by an F-unit, is a Chinese red boxcar. What is unusual is that this is a single sheathed box car, presumed to be a CB&Q car and possibly an XM-27 or XM-28. Neither of us can remember seeing a single sheathed box car painted Chinese red.

There appears to be two “plates” affixed to the door of the box car. The top one looks about right for the Burlington Route herald while the lower one is deeper. Something relating to the Union Station celebrations? If this had been Havelock in 1957 or 1958, one could guess that the painting was an experiment in connection with the introduction of Chinese red.

Can anyone shed any light on this unusual scene? Does any recall any other Chinese red box cars of this type or other companies using a similar colour on freight cars in this time frame?

Hol has contacted the seller but he is unable to assist further as he was not the photographer and the quality of the photo was not very good.

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ

 

 

 

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