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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Congress Park Operations
From: "STEVEN HOLDING sholding@sbcglobal.net [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 00:16:32 +0000 (UTC)
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I started with the CB&Q at the sheep yards in Montgomery as a stock yard labor in the summer of '67 working saturday and sunday days and all the vacations and other extra work.  Till started at WCC in the fall of '68 only to find I could not work and go to school at the same time so went to Uncle Sam ain't released me yet as a training NCO in the Fire Dept school at Ft. Rucker, Ala.  The SCL geeps in run 8 working up the hill thru the south side of the post (just a couple blocks from the barracks) with peanuts and new Elba Trailers sounded just like the Geeps running thru Aurora.  Old Tricky Dick gave me 179 day early out and I took every day of it only to get home with no CB&Q and no Passenger trains.  Met Dan Holbrook in a Photo Class at WCC and he said BN was hiring and I was broke,unemployed and just got engaged and BN was the first to call me to work so I started at Congress Park in the middle of January 1973.  They had just put COMPASS in and due to the traffic thru Congress Park at the time it took two guys on second trick.  We had the regular shift that was off on Mon and Tue. and a Extra Operator that was seven days a week.  So there was FIrst Trick Operator, Second Trick and Third Trick Operators with the ticket agent working about 4 hours in the morning.  She was the wife of the B&B foreman and lived up stairs in the old depot on the south side.  The regular East End Swing guy (Third Thursday nite Eola Op., Two Thirds Congress Park and Two Seconds CPK) also sold life insurance and could make more money at that then working the two seconds so he would layoff about every week so It did not matter which job you were assigned on second trick CPK you both worked 7 days a week.  Poor old Frank did not know which job we were working as we both were there 7 days a week. 5 regular and 2 days OT every week.  For the first two weeks I had to be at COMPASS school in Cicero (one of the old business cars by the yard office) at 8 AM till noon then rode out to the park and crawled up in a bunk in the locker room till 3 and Frank would get me to work till 11pm before riding the dinky back to Aurora and do it all over again 5 days a week.  About the last of March they the union forced the issue and the extra op came off replaced by a clerk ( 5 days a week for less pay as a clerk)(Same days off Mon and Tue. )  So I got to post at Uniion Ave Tower first trick with Clay for two weeks then out to Eola post as operator (they had the IBM 2770 ((High Speed Machine)) rather then the 1050 at Congress Park.)  Got to work Agent North Aurora for two weeks (It was at Eola Yard office ((the old one on the south side)) Spins Clerk job)  Then post at Aurora Tower.  Some where in this I had to take the Book of Rules in the basement of Aurora Depot and one of the guys was Browney the agent at Montgomery he did not pass as he fumed out "I ain't seen a rule book in 20 years"  Caught third trick Aurora Tower and the very first nite alone as 11811 (Streator Fast Freight) with Fast Eddy came charging thru as I tried to hoop up the orders the fireman(Wilber S) had a flashlight in his hand and it nicked the hoop and the order fell at my feet.  I snatched them up and took off down the platform as fast as I could and could keep up with the second unit and Trumper came out on the gangway and I tossed the order up on the gangway.  Now I am at the west end of the platform and still have to catch the waycar.  So I beat feet to the east end and just had time to catch the hoop and hand them up to the waycar.  I would bounce Congress Park, Eola and Aurora Tower till the middle of June 73 when I was assigned 2nd Aurora Tower(the two previous second trickers had went into Cicero as Train Dispatchers)  One nite the Train Master who took care of the Operators and Dispatchers stopped by and asked me IF I wanted to go into Cicero and try it out.  I told him I had only been in the RR for what 8 or 9 months and did not feel I could handle it.  Told old Jake (first trick Op at Aurora Tower) the next day and I think he went to bat for me and told me NOT to turn it down if asked again.  So the next time the TM stopped by and asked me I said I would give it a try.  The slacker on the East End Relief job was forced to quit an I bid the job starting Jan 1, 1974 worked it till Feb. 14, 1974 My first day posting as a Train Dispatcher at Cicero.  Two moves later(Galesburg 1983, Ft. Worth 1993) retired on Friday the 13th Nov. 2009
Steve in SC


On Monday, March 6, 2017 10:38 AM, "Tom Hammer hammermann1911@outlook.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
This is real good stuff.  When did you work at Congress Park Yard. We had long arm switches in 1957.  Were we interchanging with the EJ&E at Westmont or Downers Grove. Do we still have operations at this places?  Tom Hammer

On 3/6/2017 8:53 AM, STEVEN HOLDING sholding@sbcglobal.net [CBQ] wrote:
 
Talking about leakers
In the early spring of '73 we got a Southern box car of corn interchanged from the IHB at Congress Park (They would shove up the hill into the then 4 track north yard. )  So it leaked a stream of corn up the hill and into the yard.  We had 2 car inspectors there at the time to inspect all inbound interchange cars.  And of course they marked it BAD ORDER.  This was just after COMPASS(a computer program with all stations slowly get it installed.((A real time prototype car card system))) had been installed and  at the time first thing in the afternoon about 2 PM BN ran a 351 Cicero to Galesburg dead freight that often would switch and pickup at Congress Park and on down the line.  Once the cars were interchange received in the computer we would print out a switch list and 351 would go to it.  At the time we would sometimes "pencil switch" (cars were switched either west to Galesburg or north to Savanna and St. Paul) if there were only a couple north they would run to Galesburg and over the hump to go north. And of course a BAD ORDER had to be kicked out.  So 351 switches the yard and ran some more corn across the lead at the west end of the yard.  ( the switch off the main into the yard was power and CTC controlled with a dwarf signal which had to be lined by the dispatcher either for the main or down the hill to the IHB)  Then the Congo came out about 4 PM after 351 had got out of town with the west cars.  During the Dinky Parade the Congo would switch the sugar plant and other cars in the yard(Sou box leaking more corn) Then the Harbor would shove up more cars often during the parade and fill the yard.  (More computer work) And switching would resume after the parade(more leaking corn) and the Congo would take cars west to Westmont, or Downer Grove.  And while they were gone the Harbor would shove more cars up into the yard for the Congo to switch on their return(more corn added to the lead)  and of course spring rain and now after a week or so we were wading in corn up to our shoe tops(Slippery and slimy and of course smelly) After a week or so the Harbor informed the BN they would not interchange any more traffic until corn was removed as it was a safety hazard,  So the MOW had to come out with dump trucks and shovels and end loader to clean the lead at the west end of the yard of all the split rotten corn.
That is why all the pigeons and doves were around the yards.  The passenger trains would dump and fertilize and water the split grain and give the green tinge to the ballast on Granger roads. 
Steve in SC


On Monday, March 6, 2017 9:06 AM, "JK public@redtower.net [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Here's a photo of a boxcar-loading (only) grain elevator...

http://transport.castlegraphics.com/displayimage.php?album=96&pid=2113

http://transport.castlegraphics.com/displayimage.php?album=96&pid=2120

Note the chutes coming out the rear, they used to have a canvas? extension that would allow the worker to load the boxcar.  This grain elevator stopped shipping by rail even in the 1960s, as you can see (no stub track and no extensions on the chutes).

Cheers!

Jan Kohl

www.castlegraphics.com

On 3/6/2017 12:47 AM, ras1@uniserve.com [CBQ] wrote:
Keith No seems to have mentioned how the cars were filled.
 The was a space above the grain doors that the pipe from the grain elevator was put through, and swept back and forth to distribute the grain in the car, up to the level marked on the interior walls for that type of grain. The car could not be filled right to the top because of weight/load limits of the cars. These load levels were obvious if you could see into the cars - possible interior detail?







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