Re: [CBQ] Can Anyone Identify This Image

["Hol Wagner holpennywagner@msn.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>]

I just checked Edmund Keilty's book, Doodlebug Country, to make sure the Oregon Interurban was not listed among roads operating motor cars, and he does not show it.  But he missed a number of other shortlines that had motor cars, so the omission really doesn't mean much  The OI's 1908-1918 timeframe coincides perfectly with the widespread early development of gas-mechanical and gas-electric cars, and dozens of backwater shortlines employed such cars to cut operating costs.

As for the road's 4-4-0 or 4-4-0s, early 20th Century Burlington locomotive dispositions are sparse, and when they do exist they only show the date a locomotive was retired -- no real disposition is included.  The fact that the Oregon Interurban had its beginning in 1908, four years after the consolidation of all the component lines -- including the KCStJ&CB line the OI connected with at Forest City -- would mean whatever might have been sold to the shortline would have carried a Q number by the time of the sale.  The locomotive in the postcard view has no distinguishing characteristics that would allow us to definitely identify it as coming from the Burlington, but located as the OI was with only a Q connection (no pun intended, Dave Lotz), it does seem most likely that the locomotive or locomotives came from the Q, though the proximity to Kansas City and St. Joe makes many more railroads legitimate possibilities.

Hol

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The attached image from the other end of the depot at Oregon appears to show a trolley-like motor car of some kind rather than a steam train.  Note the Adams Express Company sign on the end of the depot; that Q also used Adams at this time.

Hol

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April 5, 2016

 

Rick - I "think" this is the Oregon, MO, depot image that Pete is talking about:

 

 

It shows a 4-4-0. I had the same question as you after reading Pete's post, could the 4-4-0 shown be ex-B&MR or Q? Looks to be a pretty old locomotive. What say the locomotive historians in our Group? Best Regards - Louis

 

 

 

In a message dated 4/5/2016 4:51:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:

Pete- I have a source that says the OI had a pair of 4-4-0s;  I presume former Q (?).    What type of locomotive does your photo show?

Rick Morgan

 

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OK guys  This photo has a hidden JEWEL OF INESTIMABLE VALUE.   Look behind the depot..between the depot and the big Number 16 on what appears to be a large sign.  There you will see a train on the OREGON INTERURBAN RAILROAD.  

 

This RR ran between Forest City and Oregon..3 miles as the crow flies, but about 6 via rail since the line had to go a couple of miles south, climbing the bluffs which you see in the distance thence heading northeast toward Oregon.  This railroad only lasted from 1908 to 1918..10 years..Very very few pictures exist.  I have a single photo of the engine and one coach at the depot in Oregon.  

 

My cousin grew up in Oregon and in our youth we  once "walked" the line from Oregon to Forest City.  He recalls that we came upon the remains of a trestle, but I don't remember it.  The old depot stood in the north part of Oregon until about 20 years or so ago...About 10 years ago a fellow member of the Lincoln Railfans Club and I drove to Oregon and by advance arrangement had a guided tour by a then 80 plus year old resident who had personal memories of the line.

 

If this image is after 1918 I'm going to be mighty embarrassed, but I'm convinced that that is a train we're looking at behind the depot.

 

In seasons of the year when the vegetation is off you can still see the old grade running south out of Forest City, climbing the bluff.

 

This is the only photo that I have ever seen of an Oregon Interurban train at Forest City...

 

Pete

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April 5, 2016

 

Group - Thanks to everyone who has contributed images, links and other information about the ex-Q Class H 2-6-0 types that worked out their service lives on the Wyoming Railway. All very interesting information. I'm now inserting and attaching an image of CB&Q No. 1151 before it was sold in 1927 to the Wyoming Central as their No. 104. The undated image shows 1151 powering a passenger train at Forest City, MO:

 

 

 

The 1151 was constructed at the Aurora Shops in 1898. I'm also attaching a spreadsheet contributed by Group member Ken Martin giving a roster of Wyoming Railway locomotives and rolling stock. Ken said to credit the spreadsheet information to Bill Tulley. If any one else has images of Wyoming Central 2-6-0's while they were still CB&Q locomotives, those I would enjoy seeing. Best Regards - Louis

 

Louis Zadnichek II

Fairhope, AL   

 

 

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