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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 10:50:40 -0400
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Hol et al...It seemed to me that the  "whatever it was" on the east side of the depot at Forest City which I IDd as the OI appears to me to be, as you suggested some kind of "trolley car affair.  I wasn't aware that there seems to be other evidence, as you referrenced, a view from the other end of the Oregon Depot...(which I have never seen)  that it might be as you have suggested.

BTW if you are familiar with my book  "5 Miles of Family Ties"  a history of the Rock Port Langdon and Northern, you might recall that we used a sketch representation of what both Jim Reisdorff and I speculated was the first locomotive for the RPL&N which was of the "trolley car" kind of thing.

Louis asked about Q trains at FC in another post so I'll address that here.

As far as I know the lineup was like this "forever" up until the retrenchment of the passenger trains beginning in the 1960's

Northbound in the morning was No. 27 which was a KC-Omaha Train...would have been due at FC around 11:15am or so and had a scheduled stop...Right on his block was No. 41 headed for Table Rock, Wymore and Lincoln.  This train would stop at FC, but made more local stops and would head onto the Wymore Division at Napier.  

Late afternoon would be KC - Omaha Trailn 21..later becoming the SS Zephyr.  Probably FC about 4:30pm.

Night train..mostly mail was No 23 KC - Omaha...FC about 2:00am.

My guess is that the Q northbound train in the photo is either No. 27 or 41...due late morning.  

The large number of "folks" on the platform suggests to me that all of some, at least, of them are transfering to the OI for a trip up to Oregon which was and is the County Seat of Holt County.

Pete


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From: Hol Wagner holpennywagner@msn.com [CBQ] <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
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[Attachment(s) from Hol Wagner included below]
The attached image from the other end of the depot at Oregon appears to show a trolley-like motor car of some kind rather than a steam train.  Note the Adams Express Company sign on the end of the depot; that Q also used Adams at this time.





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Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 4:03 PM
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April 5, 2016
 
Rick - I "think" this is the Oregon, MO, depot image that Pete is talking about:
 
Front view
 
It shows a 4-4-0. I had the same question as you after reading Pete's post, could the 4-4-0 shown be ex-B&MR or Q? Looks to be a pretty old locomotive. What say the locomotive historians in our Group? Best Regards - Louis
 
 
 
In a message dated 4/5/2016 4:51:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:


Pete- I have a source that says the OI had a pair of 4-4-0s;  I presume former Q (?).    What type of locomotive does your photo show?

Rick Morgan
 
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OK guys  This photo has a hidden JEWEL OF INESTIMABLE VALUE.   Look behind the depot..between the depot and the big Number 16 on what appears to be a large sign.  There you will see a train on the OREGON INTERURBAN RAILROAD.  
 
This RR ran between Forest City and Oregon..3 miles as the crow flies, but about 6 via rail since the line had to go a couple of miles south, climbing the bluffs which you see in the distance thence heading northeast toward Oregon.  This railroad only lasted from 1908 to 1918..10 years..Very very few pictures exist.  I have a single photo of the engine and one coach at the depot in Oregon.  
 
My cousin grew up in Oregon and in our youth we  once "walked" the line from Oregon to Forest City.  He recalls that we came upon the remains of a trestle, but I don't remember it.  The old depot stood in the north part of Oregon until about 20 years or so ago...About 10 years ago a fellow member of the Lincoln Railfans Club and I drove to Oregon and by advance arrangement had a guided tour by a then 80 plus year old resident who had personal memories of the line.
 
If this image is after 1918 I'm going to be mighty embarrassed, but I'm convinced that that is a train we're looking at behind the depot.
 
In seasons of the year when the vegetation is off you can still see the old grade running south out of Forest City, climbing the bluff.
 
This is the only photo that I have ever seen of an Oregon Interurban train at Forest City...
 
Pete


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April 5, 2016
 
Group - Thanks to everyone who has contributed images, links and other information about the ex-Q Class H 2-6-0 types that worked out their service lives on the Wyoming Railway. All very interesting information. I'm now inserting and attaching an image of CB&Q No. 1151 before it was sold in 1927 to the Wyoming Central as their No. 104. The undated image shows 1151 powering a passenger train at Forest City, MO:
 
 
 
The 1151 was constructed at the Aurora Shops in 1898. I'm also attaching a spreadsheet contributed by Group member Ken Martin giving a roster of Wyoming Railway locomotives and rolling stock. Ken said to credit the spreadsheet information to Bill Tulley. If any one else has images of Wyoming Central 2-6-0's while they were still CB&Q locomotives, those I would enjoy seeing. Best Regards - Louis
 
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL   
 
 


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