June 6, 2015
Hol - During the early 1960s when I lived in Downers Grove, I now vaguely
remember that Commonwealth Edison in Chicago sold a 0-6-0 to Pielet Brothers,
but I think the locomotive later ended-up in a park and was not scrapped.
Perhaps, my rail fan buddies from that era (Bob Campbell and Bill Barber) can
provide details. That would be the only steam locomotive I know of that was sold
to Pielet Brothers. May be that's the locomotive your friend in Utah has photos
of. Best Regards - Louis
In a message dated 6/6/2015 10:18:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:
Another note: Just heard from Bob Lehmuth in Utah that he
has photos of steam locomotives -- though not Q -- at Pielet Bros., so they
apparently did scrap steam power. Hol
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015
17:40:48 -0400 Subject: Re: [CBQ] Did the Q sell locos to Pielet at
McCook,IL
June 5,
2015
Leo and Hol - I agree, Pielet Brothers never scrapped a Q steam
locomotive. Although technically not a direct Q sale, let's not forget 5632
and 4963 being sold by the CWI in August 1969 to Erman-Howell Division of
Luria Steel on 83rd Street in Chicago. This resulted from a conflict between
their owner Dick Jensen and the railroad. The CWI was then sued by Jensen
and he was eventually awarded a large sum in settlement as I recall.
The legal case makes for interesting reading:
Although 5632 was quickly scrapped (it's tender lasted for a little
while longer as it was gutted into a hopper car for moving scrap around
the yard), fortunately 4963 was set aside by Erman-Howell (probably because of
Jensen's law suit at the time) and eventually purchased by the Illinois
Railway Museum where it remains in storage today.
If not dismantled at Eola, the Q competitively bid their retired
locomotives and rolling stock. We're all familiar with NWSW at Sterling, but
Robinson Company is a new one to me. My father told me that Hyman Michaels in
south Chicago also purchased Q steam power for scrap, those locomotives being
interchanged to the IHB at Congress Park.
Hol, I've always wondered, what company(s) scrapped CS steam power. I
recall the last CS steam locomotives were assembled in Denver and then moved
south all the way to Commercial Metals in Dallas, TX. However, wasn't Q steam
power moved from Denver and other Lines West division points east to the
Lincoln dead line? And from Lincoln, east to Chicago scrap yards, or at the
very end, to NWSW.
Thanks for posting the Robinson Company letter. I've got
several images of Q steam power taken in the 1950s showing a number of
locomotives on a scrap yard delivery track "some where" in Chicago.
One is an 0-8-0. Got to find the images to see if it's the 547, plus
if any of the numbers in the letter match the other locomotives. Other than at
Eola or NWSW, photos of Q steam power being scrapped are rare.
I'd like to see someone with access to Q mechanical department archives
compile a list of what scrap yards purchased what Q locomotives along with the
dates of sale. Compiling a complete scrap list is probably impossible, but
from World War Two forward to complete dieselization might be doable. Seems as
if NWSW purchased the majority if not all of the Q's remaining steam power in
the late 1950s. Best Regards - Louis
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL
In a message dated 6/5/2015 3:15:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:
Thanks Hol,
I had not heard of any steam locos going to Pielet but the Congress
Park location made me wonder. I checked Corbin's Steam Locos of the Q and it
shows the 547 scrapped in 1954, the same year as the photo at the
"park".
So I'll theorize that these locos were brought to the park by the
Congo,left for the east end Wayfreight to take to Eola. Then the Rockfalls
Wayfreight would take them to Rockfalls where the switch engine would
deliver them to Northwestern steel.
Does anyone have documentation on the final dispo of 547?
Leo
Phillipp
Leo: I don't believe Pielet was involved in the
scrapping of steam locomotives, though I could be wrong. The Q,
however, did not sell any to Pielet, that I've sever seen
documented. The attached letter is typical of the dispositions of
steam locomotives sold for scrap. The only Illinois company listed
besides Northwest Steel & wire is Robinson Bros. of
Chicago. Hol
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.comFrom: CBQ@yahoogroups.comDate: Fri, 5
Jun 2015 10:30:52 -0500 Subject: [CBQ] Did the Q sell locos to Pielet
at McCook,IL
Can anyone advise if the Q sold steam Locos to Pielet
in McCook,IL for dismantling ?
It's well documented that locos went to
Northwestern Steel and Wire and of course the Eola Reclamation
plant.
I'm asking as there's a photo of the 547 and another dead
loco at Congress Park on yard trk 1.
Congress Park would not be a
storage point as every track was used multiple times a day
for
Interchanges.
Leo Phillipp
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