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I've got photos of several locomotives taken in the yard at Villisca Iowa in summer 1953...One of them 700? is the one featured in Jim Reisdorff's ALLIANCE AND EVERYWHERE WEST book. The story the fireman wrote about his trip from Ravenna to Alliance during the blizzard of 49. I'll make a tentative offer...contingent of being able to find them...of these photos. Pete
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From: LZadnichek@aol.com [CBQ] <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Fri, Jun 5, 2015 4:40 pm Subject: Re: [CBQ] Did the Q sell locos to Pielet at McCook,IL
June 5, 2015
Leo and Hol - I agree, Pielet Brothers never scrapped a Q steam locomotive. Although technically not a direct Q sale, let's not forget 5632 and 4963 being sold by the CWI in August 1969 to Erman-Howell Division of Luria Steel on 83rd Street in Chicago. This resulted from a conflict between their owner Dick Jensen and the railroad. The CWI was then sued by Jensen and he was eventually awarded a large sum in settlement as I recall. The legal case makes for interesting reading:
Although 5632 was quickly scrapped (it's tender lasted for a little while longer as it was gutted into a hopper car for moving scrap around the yard), fortunately 4963 was set aside by Erman-Howell (probably because of Jensen's law suit at the time) and eventually purchased by the Illinois Railway Museum where it remains in storage today.
If not dismantled at Eola, the Q competitively bid their retired locomotives and rolling stock. We're all familiar with NWSW at Sterling, but Robinson Company is a new one to me. My father told me that Hyman Michaels in south Chicago also purchased Q steam power for scrap, those locomotives being interchanged to the IHB at Congress Park.
Hol, I've always wondered, what company(s) scrapped CS steam power. I recall the last CS steam locomotives were assembled in Denver and then moved south all the way to Commercial Metals in Dallas, TX. However, wasn't Q steam power moved from Denver and other Lines West division points east to the Lincoln dead line? And from Lincoln, east to Chicago scrap yards, or at the very end, to NWSW.
Thanks for posting the Robinson Company letter. I've got several images of Q steam power taken in the 1950s showing a number of locomotives on a scrap yard delivery track "some where" in Chicago. One is an 0-8-0. Got to find the images to see if it's the 547, plus if any of the numbers in the letter match the other locomotives. Other than at Eola or NWSW, photos of Q steam power being scrapped are rare.
I'd like to see someone with access to Q mechanical department archives compile a list of what scrap yards purchased what Q locomotives along with the dates of sale. Compiling a complete scrap list is probably impossible, but from World War Two forward to complete dieselization might be doable. Seems as if NWSW purchased the majority if not all of the Q's remaining steam power in the late 1950s. Best Regards - Louis
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL
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