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Joe,
I have learned that when you can see your mistakes and admit to them people are for the most part willing to move on. It is those that stonewall the fact that they have made a mistake that are generally discredited. As long as you have seen your errors, laughed about them and are ready to move on then I believe all is well. So, as far as I see it, you are in good shape with all those who count, as we have all screwed up more that our share of times. I always remember what my mother taught me. "When you point a finger at someone else there are always three fingers pointing back at you." I am sure you have nothing to worry about from the BRHS community as we have all had a chuckle with you.
Later, Dave Sarther
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From: Jpslhedgpeth <Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com> To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2013 2:58 pm Subject: Re: [CBQ] Oil on the Q in World War Two In the interest of full disclosure I'm the first one to confess (puiblically) that the picture that we were looking for and some of us thought that it was in the Kalmbach picture album it was pointed out to me at the BRHS meeting at Mendota, IL on Saturday that it was HIDDEN ON THE COVER OF THE ALBUM...this was was pointed out to me by Archie Hayden who had the very album I thought it was in on his display table of the swap meet.
Somewhat embarrassed...this is worse than the "dome car fiasco.
Pete
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From: HOL WAGNER <holpennywagner@msn.com> To: CB&Q Group <cbq@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sat, Nov 2, 2013 8:59 am Subject: RE: [CBQ] Oil on the Q in World War Two The Q also operated a tank car cleaning track at Casper where cars were steam cleaned when they were to carry a different grade of oil than their last load. However, this track was used primarily for cleaning cars in company fuel service, though during WWII it was used for revenue service cars, too. There were two big refineries at Casper, plus others at Glenrock, Greybull and Cody, all on the Casper Division.
Hol To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com From: jamessandrin@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 15:19:52 -0700 Subject: RE: Re: [CBQ] Oil on the Q in World War Two Here are a couple of items that may help in researching 1940s Oil traffic on the Casper (Q) and Yellowstone (NP) divisions.
1 TRAINS magazine did a piece on the Wind River traffic in the July 1945 issue show-casing work by Fred Lehman. Since the Pacific War was still ongoing, only a company photographer would have access to train line-ups and many of the locations in the article. All the freight traffic in the article show either unit trains of oil or at least large cuts of tank cars in the consists. 2 The photo of the then-new motor 111 set in Sheep Canyon, north of Greybull, Wyoming was dated 1944. As the train, displaying White Extra-status flags, is northbound, one can guess that the oil source is Texas or the Salt Creek Fields near Casper. 3 Union Tank Car had a maintenance facility adjacent to the Laurel yard up through the early years of the BN. While primarily for cars bearing UTLX reporting marks, NATX, GATX, SHPX and the like were all serviced there. The refinery in Laurel and two more in Billings made establishing a facility there wise operating sense. I have been told that UTL now has mobile maintenance equipment for RIP service. Hope this is useful. Jim Sandrin ---In cbq@yahoogroups.com, <gamlenz@...> wrote: Hol
There were magazine reports in 1899 and 1900 that both the CB&Q and B&MR were oiling tracks, and a Railway Age Gazette article in 1911 referred to the Burlington oiling track between Chicago and Downers Grove. This article included a photo of the steel tank car being used with a perforated pipe connected to the main outlet to distribute the oil, but there are no visible markings on the tank. I understand that the car looks like a Bettendorf car but the Burlington only had AC&F steel cars at this time so it might have been leased. Rupert Gamlen Auckland NZ From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of HOL WAGNER
Sent: Saturday, 2 November 2013 3:19 a.m. To: CB&Q Group Subject: RE: [CBQ] Re: Oil on the Q in World War Two And there were certainly no environmental concerns about leaking oil. In fact, a bit further back in time, around the turn of the 20th Century, many railroads -- the Q and C&S among them -- widely promoted the fact that they oiled their rights-of-way to reduce dust.
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