Brian and Charlie,
Keep in mind that the E5 carbody design really came from the slightly earlier E3 and was, in fact, a variation of the E6 which was the next generation of Es. The E3 and the shovel nose designs were close contemporaries and very well could have been designed by the same engineer(s). I believe the E3 carbody design was done by EMC engineers. I am not certain about the early shovel nose Zephyr design. Was that EMC work or Budd work or a combination. When the Pioneer Zephyr and it's early mates were built, EMC was just an engineering company. It didn't manufacture anything. All the actual manufacturing was subbed out. By the time that the DZ came along in 1936, some assembly of the power units was done in the new La Grange facility. There are published photos showing that assembly process. In my opinion, it is quite possible that the slant angle on the Zephyrs and the early E models were the same, simply because they were designed by the same people.
Bill Barber Gravois Mills, MO Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:38 pm (PST) . Posted by:I believe that the Pioneer Zephyr heavily influenced the design of the E
unit nose. The cab was elevated to the position of the UP City power cars
and that yielded the carbody design. Some of the earlier attempts were
more UP-ish; lucky the Zephyrs provided a better basis for the early Es.
Charlie Vlk
Is it just me or does the nose of the E5 have the same angle of slant as the
nose of the Pioneer Zephry? I had them parked side by side on my layout they
sure looked similiar.
Brian Durham
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