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RE: [CBQ] Chicago limited - Denver Limited [2 Attachments]

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From: HOL WAGNER <holpennywagner@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:43:32 -0700
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The June 10, 1899 public timetable was the first to show the new trains, which were carded as No. 3, the Denver Limited, and No. 6, the Chicago Limited.  The equipment listing for these trains reads:  "No. 3--Denver Limited (Vestibuled).  Sleeping Cars, Reclining Chair Cars (seats free) and Dining Car Chicago to Omaha and Denver.  No. 6 (Vestibuled).  Buffet-Smoking-Library Car, Sleeping Car, Reclining Chair Cars (seats free) and Dining Cars Denver and Omaha to Chicago."
 

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From: gamlenz@ihug.co.nz
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:50:40 +1300
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Chicago limited - Denver Limited

 
Does anyone have a 1899 or 1900 timetable to show the listed composition of these trains?

Noted that the second 1898 magazine reference stated -
The Pullman Company is building for the Burlington fast service to Omaha and Denver four entirely new trains.  The equipment of each will consist of compartment and standard sleeping cars, a composite car (having smoking room, buffet, bath and barber shop) reclining chair cars and a dining car.
 
Noted that both magazine pieces referred to a dining car being built by Pullman. 

Would the "bath" in the composite car have actually been a bath, or a bath room or merely a toilet?

Rupert
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Webber
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 7:41 AM
Subject: RE: [CBQ] Chicago-Denver

I suspect it was either due to the presence of the buffet - or...dining stops.  I don't have a 1899 PTT or ET - or even official guide - but, tho diners surely existed, there were also, still, a large number of eating houses. 

Five dining cars were built for the CB&Q in 1901.   Perhaps they found the need for them by that time?   Prior to that time, Pullman hadn't built any diners for the Q - not to say Aurora or AC&F didn't build them, haven't really looked. 




Also interesting is the fact that no dining car service is mentioned, though it was surely a part of the train.
 
Hol
 



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